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One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends -- not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive -- to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don't body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There's no way to draw a line that says "you can't like adult people that look like X" without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m inclined to agree with you. Though I’ll argue that most users over there are agreeing based on a colorful interpretation of what happened, assuming that there is indeed a community based around legal porn meant to look like CSAM… which doesn’t appear to be the case at all. Look at the community in question (!adorableporn@lemmynsfw.com) and you’ll notice a lack of anything encouraging people to present as underage.

[–] twelves@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago

Adults can be, and often are, adorable.

[–] anaisrim@mastodon.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@KairuByte

I've seen it. IMO the side panel explicitly says "childlike" and I can see some might have a problem with that. It suggests the purpose Ada objected to over there. And I think mods and admins might want to change that text such that it makes no reference to underage anyone in the context of porn.

Clearly, all participants are over 18. Good.

[–] twelves@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did they change it? I don't see what you're saying is there.

[–] Asslaion@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago

Just went there, the sticky post has a comment suggesting they remove it and the moderator said they removed the phrase. That one was actually something problematic to leave there. Apparently they are changing rules and there's new mods or something

[–] anaisrim@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@twelves

There's a screenshot I included. Posted from Mastodon so maybe the image didn't propagate out to lemmy?

[–] AnaisRim@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

Coming here from Lemmynsfw and I see my screenshot did not propagate. It's ok. I'm sure ActivityPub devs will get the unified timeline down sometime. When will everyone switch to Zot?

[–] b9999998@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm the new mod of a few hours at !adorableporn@lemmynsfw.com , and i have nothing to hide.

See pinned post https://lemmynsfw.com/post/419923 and comments as I was trying to update the community sidebar from a single line to what you see there now, and get feedback. I even have a "under construction" disclaimer.

Btw, the reference came as I was cut/paste from here https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/adorable