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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Windows 11 is just Windows 10 with rounded corners, shittier menus, and even more spyware.

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

and this is why linux is gaining so much market share in the desktop space so quickly.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.film 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's mostly gaining market share cause Steam Deck

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is a report from web browsers to major websites so it doesn’t apply much to the steam deck. I doubt most people are using theirs as an everyday desktop

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Is it? I still have yet to try a distro that works properly with multiple monitors and supports all the software I have.

[–] WhatASave@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When was the last time you tried? And Wine and other similar programs have come a long way. Especially what steamdeck/proton has done for gaming is insane.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I usually try Ubuntu Mate because I figure it's the most "normie" distro and should have good general hardware compatibility. I last tried it probably a year or two ago. It's been many years since I used Wine, but my lasting memory of it is that it's super clunky and buggy.

[–] BlueDepth9279@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve used Ubuntu, arch, fedora and PopOs and each one supported three monitors out of the box. Weird you have had issues.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My laptop is about 10 years old and has the Optimus dual nVidia/Intel GPU's, plus a DisplayLink adapter.

[–] rustyricotta@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Ah, that makes a little more sense then. That's a pretty rare and nonstandard configuration.

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I ditched windows 12 years ago and never looked back. Its gotten easier every year and I rarely if ever have to tinker with anything. It just works. Ive had the same arch (btw) install the whole time just moving the image to new computers whenever I upgrade hardware.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think I have replacements, equivalents, or Linux versions for most of my software, it's mainly the graphics drivers that suck with multiple displays. It constantly forgets the layout or leaves one of the displays inaccessible or just blank.

I also use DisplayLink for one of my monitors. I can't remember if that even worked at all.

If that could finally be fixed, it might push me to Linux.

Windows 12

Oh god, have they made another one already?

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 4 points 1 year ago

β€œwindows 10 will be the last version of windows” Remember that one? Pepperidge Farm remembers

[–] zShxck@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For multimonitor setup you need to use Wayland and not X11

[–] cymor@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been running multi monitor setups on Xorg for decades.

[–] zShxck@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

X11 can support multimonitor but it will break if the monitors have different resolutions. That's why I suggested to use Wayland.

[–] Nobug404@geddit.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. I use X11 with a 2k and an ultra wide. No problems at all.

[–] zShxck@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of cases that having different resolution can cause issues. I am glad you didn't have problem but this doesn't apply for everyone unfortunately

[–] snowe@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How are people supposed to know this? This is why Linux is hardly used for desktop. Everything requires custom knowledge.

[–] communist@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't, wayland is replacing X11 completely.

X11 is legacy and is soon to no longer ship by default anywhere.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eventually, probably, but Cinnamon, XFCE, and MATE still don't support it, so I wouldn't call "soon."

Given that Mint is one of the most recommended beginner distros, this presents a problem.

[–] communist@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Cinnamon is pretty much the only major desktop environment that isn't transitioning.

Mate and XFCE are both planning it and it seems relatively close for them, and since they're going to be using wlroots, once it's supported it won't be long for x11 to be gone.

Also, I think gnome/kde make up the VAST majority of linux desktop usage.

[–] ShustOne@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Love Linux but that's mostly steam deck pumping up numbers. Look at year over year desktop usage and it's not spiking even though it would be cool if it did.

[–] WhatASave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I do like that tabs got added to file explorer and I almost always enjoy UI changes so I like the new desktop and menus. Control panel is always still there if you want the classic style settings.