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And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is... interesting to say the least.

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[–] ComeHereOrIHookYou@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just this week or was it last week, I made a comment on some post that putting privacy aside, we should still be encouraging people to use Firefox instead of any chromium browsers to break control. It is good to see that right now I am just given a very good example why Chromium being a monopoly allows Google to control the spec (even if other companies are on board)

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/pull/124/commits/7cd99782c90bab4104725e821d11b18bc2107218

This PR nails it

[–] bradmont@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is Google finally revealing their "open source browser" strategy endgame...

[–] debeluhar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't start using Firefox again because of privacy, but because extensions doesn't exist on chrome on Android. So I switched to Firefox on both Android and PC. Later it starts with forcing this Manifest v3 or something like that for extensions, and I was really happy I already switched to Firefox. And now even this stupid thing. I am pretty sure I will not look back at chrome again. The only downside is that Firefox on desktop doesn't support PWA out of the box (especially when I am developing PWA app on my own), but there is an extension and an app that adds support for PWA even on the desktop. And also, PWA is supported on firefox on Android, but I don't get notifications on my own PWA app, while on Chrome I am getting it every time. Notifications are on for Firefox.

The only thing I find Firefox inferior over Chrome is Webgl support. Specifically browser-based games.

Although they are playable on Firefox, they play much more smoother on Webkit and it's sister, Chromium.

Like let us say you get 90fps on Webkit or Chromium, in Firefox you get around 50-60fps. That kind of difference which to gamers, may find off putting.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ComeHereOrIHookYou@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Well what do you expect when all of a sudden they started making their own browser over contributing to Firefox.

The entire reason why Chrome was created was for Google to push the web forward at their own pace. Away from the previous iteration that heavily relied on browser helper objects (plugins).

Here we are though, Google having a huge influence over the spec. Mainly because the competition weeded out to only Firefox remaining.

Sure, Edge might be considered competition for Google, but at the end of the day, Edge, Opera (unfortunately), Vivaldi, Brave, and similar browsers are essentially Chrome reskins.

PS: I am considering Edge as a competition for Google as Microsoft is well known for being EEE (Extend, embrace, extinguish). But more importantly, they have the man power to maintain their own fork if things do get out of hand.