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[–] another_lemming@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Russian girls part was the best for it shows how unhinged they are if they aren't a troll.

I happened to be born there, and I've seen a discussion about who's to blame for so long it's nausiating.

Idk what foreigners mean by that, probs they just react to the news and socialize by saying that without a second thought most of the time.

But the sad truth is regular people were purposefully fucked in the head for two decades (after just ten years of promising chaos). That's not easy to undo. They won't magically wake up after wishing another drone strike on Kiyv, they don't believe they deserve political power or freedom, all they talk is how they are wronged by the world and how they get their sweet revenge.

If they weren't so submissive it couldn't have happened. It's a learnt surf mentality. And they are complicit in that tragedy as well. Not as much, but it sure feels like there we see the whole country acting as a one, not a handful of leaders doing that against their will. And others like me not having means or courage to speak up. I've been already disowned by some friendgroups, thankfully without telling on me.

The whole thing about carving out 'the good russians' is done by people who didn't (or couldn't) do anything before it's too late, to feel better and to bear with it. It's its' own subculture. And I really doubt this distinction means much in the big picture. Unvocal minority not even hitting the margin of error, and not deserving support like those who actually fucking die. A community without it's place.

And I'm really surprised I see this group named in english language.

edit: Originally there were three or four paragraphs. I sent it too early.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Culture, movements, propaganda, all odd and complex things. Seeing how things have changed in the last 30+ years in the US (since that's what I know) and especially the last 10, and how that all came about, gives me a very different perspective about the directions various countries take and how the populous is led there gradually.

I've been to Moscow briefly. I know the people there are just people like anywhere. But their reality, like mine, is shaped by information available, the culture, the history.

Rise of right wing craziness to mainstream in USA via right wing media has been a targeted project for the last 40+ years following Watergate. Only now do we see those plans come to fruition in the form of judicial takeover and extreme divisiveness among the populace. As educational institutions continue to be eroded, underfunded, demonized, and subverted there will come a time when the majority of the population gladly accepts its strong man and relinquishes the rest of its freedoms with a smile.

[–] another_lemming@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

It's also a fun bit that our special services and oligarchs has a lot of handshaking with your politicians and having same talking points. Both have their own goals in that, but they do cooperate to secure their standing and wealth.

It's kinda weak to ask your people to not help my own propaganda, but seeing Rogan and Carlson shortly translated into russian and spreading it as the opinion at the very heart of the US of A, while Biden is joked at every single time he trips over something causes me headaches.

If there weren't these fucks capitalizing on anything, the media hold could've been less strong... But at this point we collectively smell our own farts anyway. So it's more of a wish for you to become better as I lose any hope we'd ever come to what the majority of the world thinks is bad.

And I don't want another country to come onto that level of a shitshow. We have enough of them rn.