How much exposure do you have to these bible people though? I mean the dad was taught that even being gay sends you to hell. Probably never finished grade 9.

I'm from a small conservative town and it's hard to fault the brainwashed people either IMO. A lot of them are good people who have been severely manipulated.

[–] ShaggyDemiurge@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago

How much exposure do you have to these bible people though?

I'm from Russia. I've seen more than enough conservatives. And more than enough brainwashing (though more in a context of a war)

In the end, I think, this is not really relevant. Transphobic parent, ultimately, hurts more than helps (even if they do it out of love for you), and people who do you more damage than help should be cut off

[–] TheActualDevil@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, well I guess they win then. Deep down they're probably good people, so we just ignore their bigotry and allow it to proliferate further and continue to make the rest of the world a worse place for people I care about.

Fuck that. I cut out my family for being bigots. I told them specifically why and I refuse to take their phone calls. You have to let people know that those beliefs are wrong and let them know that there are social consequences for continuing to believe them. America didn't pass the Civil Rights Act by waiting until people just came around and agreed with them. They said "This is wrong, and now illegal." and made them deal with the consequences (Kinda. It's still America and still pretty racist so..)

Point is, change doesn't happen by ignoring shitty behavior. This kind of behavior needs to be confronted and shut down every time. EVERY TIME.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

To add, MLK thought passing the civil rights act was a mistake after it was passed. It didn't go far enough, and it passing pretty much ensured nothing else would be done in addition. Sometimes something that looks good on the surface is actually damaging. Just because this person's father suger coated their bigotry (in this particular message at least) doesn't solve the problem that they're a bigot and making their daughters quality of life worse.