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[–] trot@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They did quite well in WW1.

Speaking of that, was the Entente was completely justified in sending millions to die in the war? After all, previously you said:

I'm sorry, but when it involves one imperialist bloc invading a smaller country, then it does matter.

Not even one, but two smaller countries! Think of little Belgium and Serbia!

[–] trot@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

No, just as it would be unable to resist NATO in being turned into a far-right paramilitary-led banana republic if Russia were to suddenly withdraw without any decrease in NATO involvement.

But the beauty of the neat little trick above is that if the working classes of both sides correctly oppose their respective ruling classes' interests, we can end up with a scenario where both sides lose - objectively the best outcome for the Ukrainian people, as well as everyone else.

The Russian anti-war activists are clearly holding up their end of the bargain. Why are you not holding up yours?

[–] trot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

I literally said that

Russian anti-war activists have a correct position.

Are you aware that it's possible to want neither NATO tanks nor Russian tanks in Ukraine?

You can even make sure you are consistent with both things in action 100% of the time - it's a neat little trick called "opposing the position of your own government".

[–] trot@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (60 children)

Russian pacifists want Russia to stop invading Ukraine.

Western "pacifists" want to send NATO tanks to Ukraine.

They are not the same.

Russian anti-war activists have a correct position.

But an important consideration should be whether one's actions actually contribute to Russia withdrawing sooner, or if they instead help justify further, equally self-interested NATO involvement in the war.

Unless you are Russian, it's most likely the latter.

There are two imperialist blocs involved in the conflict, and it doesn't matter which one of them technically started it.