rosemash

joined 7 months ago
[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Is it the same for downvotes?

Yes

It's honestly a big downside. I can see it being useful for admins on their own instances to detect brigades or vote manipulation coming from different servers, but I don't like that they are public, because it could discourage people from voting honestly on topics where they could potentially be harassed for engaging

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 7 months ago (5 children)

And anyone can be an admin. You can just make an instance and appoint yourself an admin. So in practice it's not limited to anybody.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

It's just an option on every post

https://i.imgur.com/j5ZB8vi.png

On the regular Lemmy UI you can see the option if you're an admin (on any instance, not just the one the comment was made on)

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

No, it's on Lemmy too

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 19 points 7 months ago (13 children)

The accuracy of the votes (lack or vote fuzzing) and the ability to view the split of upvotes and downvotes individually, as well as who voted for what

The latter point can be seen as a kind of disadvantage though. I don't like the fact that anyone who is an admin on any instance can go to another instance and see the identity of every voter on any post.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm new to lemmy, so I could be missing some context, but you arent making a very good pitch with this post. Java is a downgrade from rust, and unless I'm reading wrong you seem to suggest they are planning to deliberately introduce new features into this java implementation as a way to break up the network on purpose, which would make lemmy instances obsolete, and you sort of present it as a good thing and suggest its a deliberate political move on behalf of sublinks. But you didn't even explain in your post why lemmy exactly needs to be replaced. So you are calling lemmy toxic, but already this new project is just seeming very underhanded and manipulative by its very existence. As a user who just wants a better reddit alternative, reading this post makes me feel like I stumbled upon a project motivated by a grudge (just based on the way it's phrased) and you leave me more inclined to speak out against it than endorse it, since it seems like an attempt to divide the network, and I've seen what happens to divided networks where instances have different features and refuse to work together (just look at XMPP). So unless you can explain what is wrong with lemmy's development or roadmap I think everybody reading this should be very skeptical of sublinks and cautious of the threat posed by projects like this in general.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's the level that behavior has been amplified that's scary and unusual, before the internet it was only the most extreme fringe groups. It isn't normal to go online and feel like a 50/50 chance everybody you meet is an extremist. That's a recent thing just sometime within the last 10 years and it's never been like that before ever

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't believe in conspiratorial thinking though. I don't think this happened on purpose. Social media algorithms were built to maximize engagement by collecting user data, the algorithms learned that people engage more if posts amplifying negative emotions are amplified, and that explains how stuff like this happened. It's actually scarier to realize the state of society is because of an accident caused by negligent capitalism rather than tyranny.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 31 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I feel like this kind of behavior can be attributed to the unintended consequences of social media engagement algorithms, black boxes taking over peoples minds and turning them into angry thralls, it's like a natural disaster. Trump was basically an internet meme and he evolved into this

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 9 points 7 months ago

1 step forward, 4 steps back!

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a cultural shift. everyone in the world now uses technology at all times (even adults, in the past it was only the kids glued to phones). So the problem isn't actually schools, but the world.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 7 months ago

It can be both though.

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