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I don't mean the EU as such, as it doesn't have any spying capabilities, but states like the UK, France, Germany and maybe Sweden, Norway, Italy or Spain must have satellites orbiting earth to spy on adversaries, equipment to eavesdrop on communications like the NSA does, operatives on the ground...

Can they substitute American intelligence gathering, now the US is essentially trying to pull a chamberlain on Ukraine?

 

it's like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won't do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What's the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That's unfriendly to say the least.

 

I'm just trying to guess how much time has Ukraine before being absorbed by authoritarian Russia.

OK, a bit melodramatic, but if Russia keeps advancing, even if it's meters per day, even if it takes them 10 years to reach Kyiv, they are still advancing and Putin can throw as many bodies as he wants, a luxury Ukraine does not have. It pays being a larger country, both in terms of demographics and surface.

Now that it's clear that neither trump nor vance like Zelenskyy and want his head to divide the country and stir things up to find somebody more amenable to sell out the country to both the US and Russia, it's up to Canada, UK, the EU and hopefully Australia, South Korea and Turkey to help Ukraine navigate the next 4 years. What I want to know is what military capabilities these countries can spare to help Ukraine.

I'd also like some kind of probabilities scale: for example, it is plain stupid to suggest Greece and Turkey have so many tanks they could lend some to Ukraine. This ignores political realities between both countries, as they hate each other and were accepted simultaneously into NATO so they wouldn't veto or kill each other.

Also, do you know if any reputable source has a timetable the EU would need to substitute America's capabilities? Not even to match America's 2.8K American nuclear warheads and nuclear carrying missiles, their 6 fleets, 11 carriers..., but to simply defend the EU's territory win a conflict with Russia with no American involvement and no territorial loss and eventually defend Ukraine and help them reclaim their lost territories.

Just 2 days ago I though talking about NATO being dead was being melodramatic but now I really believe in 6 months this organization won't exist anymore. Europe has to go back to cold war levels of military spending.

 

BBC Article

These are propaganda coups for the Russians. They're dragging anchors and getting away with it.

Can't EU countries block Russian vessels navigating the Baltic sea?

To access the Baltic sea from the North sea any ship must cross the Danish straits. Same question.

It gives the impression they're winning and makes the EU and NATO look weak.