penguin_in_suit

joined 1 year ago
[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

live.formula1stream.cc

[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope this can be a polite argument of different opinions.

Like others said it could be bad for the fediverse in the long run. If meta joins activitypub they are the only ones that are really winning. We get access and engage their content, which promotes their network. They would be the largest node by far and it will give them power to influence activitypub. They can push "features" that only works within the threads network and when they don't work with the rest of the fediverse creating a disparity in the userbase. People on threads will think that we are the ones that are weird for not having them since all users on threads have them and will probably push, "just download threads". (Kind of how apple controls iMessage and how people get bullied into buying iphones just so they don't have a green bubble, the fediverse is the different one that will need to adapt to meta wishes) Or maybe they can suddenly decide to defederate, and now all the people that had connections with threads will be forced to download threads if they want to keep those connections. People that would otherwise never had downloaded threads in the first place. Regardless of the outcome, they join to stay or leave, they are the ones that will win in the end.

This has been done in the past. Its Microsoft " embrace, extend, extinguish" philosophy. A recent example of an open standard is the XMPP being killed by Google. Ultimately meta is a for profit corporation and they have every incentive to monopolize this space.

You brought up the point of people being able to block the domain. The vast majority of people don't change the default settings so the fediverse experience would include threads by default. Just like how ppl can block meta, and since the majority of fediverse don't really want the connection, if threads is so important for you why can't you sign up on their pratform?

For me, other than my concerns with the future of the fediverse, i also consider is that meta is so bad that threads is not even available in Europe because of safety and privacy concerns and so I want nothing to do with it.

One last thing, meta was supposed to join WhatsApp, FB messages and Instagram direct, meaning from each of those platforms you could message ppl on the other platforms. They haven't even been able to do that yet. They connected FB and Instagram but not WhatsApp yet bc ppl opinion of FB is low enough and the backlash was big enough.

Hopefully I managed to convey my reasons why the federation with meta is bad.

But also, what are the good reasons to federate, like you (just opposite) I haven't seen a valid reason to federate.

[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

With 28 there is only one All the other are thirty one

My mom taught me this limerick when I was little.

[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Its a pixel thing. In fairly sure its a feature of the assistant that they just made it always on.

[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Law comes into effect march 2024. Apple will need to comply then

[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I regret that all im able to give you is a mere upvote

[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Sportsurge is what I use

 

I wanted to try the fediverse for a long time but always found it too complex/confusing and with the whole reddit situation I finally took the opportunity of actually giving it a try and personally, Im enjoying the change. Lemmy is small but it will grow, but I keep seeing ppl complaining about the learning curve and that is too complicated. In my opinion want the main "issue" is the freedom of CHOICE. We have been used to having limited choice and with the fediverse there is so much of it, choice in instances but also in services since, since from what I understood, ActivityPub allows you to see Lemmy from a mastodon client and viceversa.

From the instances, the learning curve is when signing up, when joining communities and overall browsing. People got used to centralized services so when you recommend Lemmy they expect a single website. But the reality of Lemmy is that being on fediverse its decentralized with multiple instances to choose from. However, on reddit (or other platforms) every account is technically equal but since instance can choose to limit stuff like downvote or creation of communities, depending on where you create your account you might get a different feature set.

Then comes the fact if communities you want to join are in a different instance you need to account for that with the @instance-name. This also means that if you are used to only browse while not being logged-in, on reddit is simple since its reddit.com/r/subredditname, on Lemmy this becomes lemmy-instance.tld/c/comunity-name@community-instance , which adds a layer of complexity. Eventually people will learn where their communities reside, but for now is yet another thing one needs to know.

Also another major thing is that in reddit each sub was unique. Here multiple times I found the same community on different instances. Which is good for the whole decentralized aspect but can be very confusing when trying to join.

I'm new at the federation but one thing that would be cool to see is that communities over different instances were the same. For example, if tech@instance1 and tech@instance2 were the same community, there would be less confusion when trying to join since the "space" was the same. I think it would improve reachability (local feed) and so that if one goes down the community is still there, but mainly understandability since one would not need to figure out which is the community that you actually wanted to join.

Finally, I want to thank all the developers and and creators that allow such place to exist and continuously try to make it better.

[–] penguin_in_suit@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the learning curve comes from the instances. People got used to centralized services so when you say Lemmy they expect one website. Here you got to choose the instance first and then if communities are in a different instance you need to account for that with the @instance...

Personally I am getting it pretty quickly but I can see why its confusing.