Federation is working now! Rejoice!
imaqtpie
joined 1 year ago
PSA regarding federation (copied from previous comment)
I also want to continue spreading the word about federation issues. I've been on Lemmy for a month now and it's going great. But that whole time, it's essentially been impossible to comment on kbin magazines. The comments simply don't show up. I'm not seeing most of your comments when browsing here from Lemmy, but I am seeing Lemmy comments.
I obviously have this account, but its annoying to keep switching between accounts, plus I haven't really gotten the hang of the kbin interface yet.
Point being, I suspect much of the sluggishness of organic growth is not due to a small userbase, but rather due to the fact nobody can actually find the threads and comment on them efficiently. We need to remain steadfast and trust that the developers will fix this stuff up soon. I really feel that simply making Lemmy and kbin federate perfectly would immediately make this platform 10 times more active. We have plenty of people but right now we are fragmented into parallel communities. This isn't even getting into the server overload at a number of Lemmy instances.
I just don't want people to write off the platform before we can see how it's actually meant to work. I've seen a ton of brilliant comments on kbin and I haven't even had the chance to really mix it up with you guys yet.
Here was the Lemmy post about this story that somebody actually posted here a couple days before this thread. But it doesn't show up here and none of you can see it.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/706681
I really don't want people to get discouraged by this bug because it's very disconcerting when you make a high value comment or post and the response is crickets. Its not because the platform is empty, it's because federation is fucked and your post is invisible to everyone not on your local server.
Very insightful points. I totally agree about the intimidation factor of spamming posts with no comments or organic interaction. But it's also a fine line, someone needs to be posting something to get the ball rolling.
I also want to continue spreading the word about federation issues. I've been on Lemmy for a month now and it's going great. But that whole time, it's essentially been impossible to comment on kbin magazines. The comments simply don't show up. I'm not seeing most of your comments when browsing here from Lemmy, but I am seeing Lemmy comments.
I obviously have this account, but its annoying to keep switching between accounts, plus I haven't really gotten the hang of the kbin interface yet.
Point being, I suspect much of the sluggishness of organic growth is not due to a small userbase, but rather due to the fact nobody can actually find the threads and comment on them efficiently. We need to remain steadfast and trust that the developers will fix this stuff up soon. I really feel that simply making Lemmy and kbin federate perfectly would immediately make this platform 10 times more active. We have plenty of people but right now we are fragmented into parallel communities. This isn't even getting into the server overload at a number of Lemmy instances.
I just don't want people to write off the platform before we can see how it's actually meant to work. I've seen a ton of brilliant comments on kbin and I haven't even had the chance to really mix it up with you guys yet.
Ugh, I need to remember to move over to kbin before commenting on this magazine. My Lemmy (sh.itjust.works) comments never show up here. No idea why, I'll lyk if I figure out.
Anyways, here's my comment:
Very good points, I think people expecting a massive wave of redditors will be disappointed. But it’s not like we need them either, we’ve already got a critical mass of quality users.
Here's my comment from my Lemmy account from 2 hours ago that's ironically not showing up here on kbin xD
People should be aware that there are still major federation issues between Lemmy and kbin. I’ve had many experiences where I navigated to the same post on different accounts, and sometimes only a handful of comments would show up on one account or the other. This likely applies to upvotes/downvotes as well.
Point being, I think this place feels significantly less active than I would expect from a 100k user base, due to the federation problems and bugs, along with pretty much every user being a noob to the platform.
I think it’s fair to say if you took these same 100k users and transported them to a fully functional/stable version of Lemmy, we would immediately see a big surge in activity, simply because people’s feeds would actually be showing what they want to see, comments wouldn’t be invisible, etc.
Also, I’ve been here three weeks too, and I have to say it was still decently active just two weeks ago, even though it was much smaller.
I feel like the rise in users has not shown up yet in the activity, but we need to be patient and give it time, because I ain’t goin back to reddit, so this place needs to keep being fun.
See the kind of quality content you're missing out on? Hold the faith and activity will naturally increase as the platform matures.
This is a fantastic comment. Defederation just causes more problems, as counterintuitive as that seems.
The threadiverse as a whole has a great number of smart, reasonable people. I would like to believe that we can build a system that allows us to flourish and them to simply exist.
But if we can't then we always have the option
It explains in the article. Found the redditor xD.
But yeah looks like daily unique visitors and average visit time, which was around 8 minutes apparently. (rookie numbers psh)
Reddit has given us an incredible head start with the way they handled the API changes.
The people who understood what that meant and decided not to stand for it are the people who came here first. Should be an excellent foundation.
Onward and upward lads
What?!? That's a fucking amazing feature, thanks for spreading the word.
Lmao what a goober
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Thank you for the transparency and clarity. Good luck moving forward, you are a very good moderator.