greencactus

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[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I sincerely appreciate your response, thank you! I think it matters a lot to me that I'm not alone with this and that it will change (I'm sure it will also change for me, goddammit).

For me it definitely is an open question of integration vs. letting other people know I'm autistic. Rn only a selected number of people know, but it definitely is an unsolved problem for me if I want to be more open with this part of my identity. In the end it is a bit like what you said, that then people can also understand one better and won't wonder 'why is this guy behaving weirdly?'

Listening is definitely a great skill as well - I want to become a psychotherapist, so that will kinda become my source of income :) Always good to cultivate this skill though!

Actually now that I think of it, maybe I've neglected it a bit. Listening for me is something I claim to be able to do well, and something where I can use the autistic part of my identity well. And also that brings me to a thought. We all like and love people who can listen well and who will be there for you. I know that a few years ago, I read Carnegie's "How to make friends and influence people" (honestly, how I didnt realize back then already that I was autistic is beyond me), but the main message of the book is that people like other people who listen. And listening to other people actually made me friends with a lot of other people. Being focused and attentive and going deep into a subject is an area I can perfectly integrate my hyper fixation and care for details, while also making the other person feel appreciated. Of course, there needs to be a fine line, but now that I think of it - I don't feel connected going to a large party, I feel connected sitting next to a friend and listening him talking about his breakup. That's what gives me a feeling of being part of the party, because that's a party I choose and a party I can be damn good at.

In the last few years however it feels that I've neglected this a bit; it feels to me that I don't really listen how I did earlier. I'm gonna reflect on why that's the case, and maybe I'll reread Carnegie. But I have the feeling that maybe, just maybe, this is connected to my feeling of feeling left out. Maybe I don't only feel left out from the others, but also left out from myself, because I no longer practice the craft and art of listening like I did earlier.

I'll need to reflect upon it, a lot. But thank you for the input! I sincerely appreciate it. Maybe I've written a lot of dumb stuff down, but at least I've a new thought to go with, and that's already worth a lot. Thank you!

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's actually a thought I had myself for a long time and on which I'd love to elaborate a bit more.

In psychotherapy (and CBT especially), there is a model where our thoughts create our feelings. Epictetus wrote two thousand years ago that "not the events make us suffer, but our judgment of them". I think that's an interesting approach, but I also think there are strong limitations. Some example can be obvious - like when a person is hungry, it wouldn't be a good idea to tell a person " you're suffering because you think you shouldn't be hungry", but some can also be a bit less obvious. E.g. I am part of the queer community and sometimes get catcalled on the street. I could argue with myself now that I "make myself upset" about it and I create unnecessary suffering in my head, but that would to some extent shift the creator of the hurt they caused onto me. Like I would try to convince myself that part of the reason why I'm hurt is because I have the belief I shouldn't be hurt by them catcalling me, and I think that's a very dysfunction approach.

I think what heavily matters is how much I do suffer. If someone would catcall me and I'd grab a gun and kill the person, that would hardly be proportional. In this case, I would definitely at least to some extent have cognition's which contribute to my suffering in a way which is avoidable.

Coming back on to the topic, what I'm interested in is where "the line" of an appropriate emotional response would be for me. I feel excluded and don't really belong; I think that's to some extent true, and it's also okay that I don't feel good about it. However, how much is appropriate? Should I just feel a bit isolated? Should I be sad now and then? Should I cry myself into bed every night?

The point for me is connected with the question how I should proceed. I absolutely feel the pressure to conform to society. But how much pressure (and suffering from not abiding) is appropriate? And is the amount of pain and sadness I feel extremely high? If yes, then I probably at least have some influence on a part of the suffering. If not, I risk trying to convince myself that I shouldn't be sad feeling excluded and lonely, and that it isn't that bad, etc.

Tl;dr - do I create the suffering myself or do is it a normal response of my psyche, and it would be self-hurting to convince myself that I create this suffering myself?

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Thank you! Relating and understanding already helps me a lot. In the end it just means that I am not really broken, because if a lot of people relate to my feeling we can't all be broken, yk?

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Thank you a lot! I know on a rational level as right that I'm not broken, that I'm just different. My psychology knowledge also helps a lot here, because I can contextualize my personal disorder into a more "neutral" framework and know why I feel the way I do. It sucks a lot though if basically every person I know at least to some extent goes to partys and concerts and have drinks and watch series with their friends, and for me the greatest joy is to sit next to a river and read a book. This huge difference between what I like vs what a lot of my friends like is draining.

It helps me a lot to know that I'm not alone with my experiences, and that it gets better after uni + a few years of growing older. The fact that someone can relate to my feeling makes me feel less alone and somehow validated. Thank you!

 

I'm not sure if anyone can relate to this, but I still wanted to get "my feelings out", so to speak. I'm a psychology student from Germany who's in a Erasmus+ year (basically an exchange year during university) in France. I think the topic of loneliness has accompanied me my whole life in one form of another, but right now I think it strikes extra hard. Generally speaking, I think I'm pretty socially competent - I have friends, a girlfriend, I'm member of a Nightline back in Germany. I know a good amount of people from uni, in Germany and France, and can have a nice smalltalk with them.

However, I don't feel included in any specific group, here or back in Germany. I am not outright rejected, people are still nice when I e.g. sit down with them for a meal. I went to a bar with some fellow exchange students, or talked with them during lunch. But these activities drain a lot of energy from me, and I can't go to the nice places where people bond as a group. I can't go to parties or concerts, having lunch with other people already drains my social battery for the day. I hear them telling how they will go on a trip or a party, how they went to the city and had a nice time. Last time I was in the city I nearly had a meltdown when I got home.

It just feels really lonely, as if all the people around me have fun as a group and I stand at the edge of the party, watching them as they enjoy themselves. I could walk up to them and have a drink, but I still wouldn't be part of the party, no matter what I really do or try, because I wouldn't be able to get in the same "fun mood" as them. This feeling of not belonging holds on the entire day right now.

However, that doesn't mean I'm not happy or I can't do fun things; I absolutely can. I love it when I can sleep out and watch a nice movie, when I have a walk next to the river and listen to my podcast. I love exploring the city (with headphones!), or watching a dog play with a ball, playing PC or writing in my diary. There are nice things in my life, which I appreciate and value. However, all these things are things I do on my own or with another person. And whenever I'm in a group, I very strongly feel that I don't really fit to the group, that they are different than me.

I already thought about joining up a group here, but my language barrier makes it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to do so. And with my fellow exchange students I don't really fit in, for the reasons outlined above.

Overall, I just feel very lonely here. Like a little alien watching the others have fun, while I'm on my own somewhere different. Of course I still have fun, I do great things, but I do them on my own. I feel that I'm broken or wrong for not able to enjoy group things as much as others do, that some part of me which is supposed to function correctly doesn't work.

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I am a bit late to the party, but I still wanted to give in my impression because I didn't see it mentioned by anyone else yet.

I think for me, it feels extremely overwhelming. I feel myself shutting down, speaking becomes basically impossible. Luckily I can still write on my phone, albeit with huge effort, so I can somehow communicate with other people. I only meltdown when I'm in a safe space, but I also remove myself when I notice it gets too much. This feeling of "it becomes too much" is difficult to describe, but it feels like an inner shaking and rumbling. A bit like a volcano. For me personally, this is an unmistakable sign that I need to get out of a situation right now. I do not know if I'm able to go beyond this rumbling sign and not meltdown, and I'm not really keen on trying so. I presume that it would probably depend on the situation, on my resources and the context.

I think the most surprising thing about it is that some very deep part of me likes the feeling of a meltdown. It is difficult to describe why, especially because a meltdown isn't fun or relaxing in any way. For me however it feels like a huge power which I am absolutely not able to control in any way, so I can just let myself go in some sense. I don't have to try and function anymore, nor do I have to behave in a certain way; instead I can just let myself happen. It is a very deep unity with myself and my needs. That doesn't mean at all that I try to have meltdowns; usually after one my day is done for, I'm basically just existing, my head hurts and I feel absolutely exhausted.

In terms of communicating, I'd advise you to prepare some cards beforehand with phrases you might need (e.g. "I need a dark room", "Please stay here", " Could you bring me some water" etc.) Just common things you might want to say. Then you won't have to struggle with saying or writing, but can just pick a card.

I would love to finish this comment with a reminder that the way you, I and we experience and feel the world is valid and okay. Having a meltdown and e.g. struggling to communicate during one isn't anything we need to feel bad and ashamed about.

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Seriously, I'd also recommend to unscrew the screen and screw it back together. For me it made wonders. And if this also doesn't bring you anything, you should text support - in the end you have a warranty for a reason, right

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well, at least now I feel that Musks tweet about liberty and being oppressed and blah are even more funny than ever. He has literally the wealth to buy countries, if he would wish to.

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Holy cow, they can lose 90% of their wealth and still be above 100 mil. The math checks out, but my gosh, how rich are they?!

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

While you may have the right to call yourself what you want, you shouldn't use it in an "us" context. At least I wouldn't be okay with it.

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I have to fight the urge to start a debate if trains or ships are cooler

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's enough internet for today

 

We must meet the threat with our valor, our blood, indeed with our very lifes, to ensure that human civilization, not insect, dominate this galaxy now and always!

 

I've rarely seen such weird coincidences on Reddi's front page as this one.

 

My partner and I just had a talk about it. Basically, she celebrated her birthday today. I was on her party, and it was fun, but I left after around 2 hours to get home and relax a bit. After I arrived, a friend of mine texted me and asked me if I wanted to go to a lake and see the sunset. I agreed, we went to the lake and went swimming in it; it was really nice. Later, after arriving at my partners, she talked with me that it hurts her that I went out with someone else on her birthday, doing a romantically coded activity.

To be honest, I realize that I don't have a single clue what is coded as a romantically coded activity. For me, this was something completely okay and appropriate, because it is for me clearly a friend-thing; but my partner explained to me that the combination of going out with another person on her birthday and going to a sea, which is a secluded place, just heavily connotates it in a romantic way.

I understand that what I've done here wasn't right, and that I have responsibility here. Even though I didn't want to hurt my partner, it is still my responsibility to inform myself here on romantically conmotated things you shouldn't do in a partnership. So, dear people of Lemmy, what does constitute a romantic moment?

Edit: I've left out some information which seems to be important for the whole picture . I've copied it out of my comment and adding it here:


Me and my gf got together in August of last year, so basically 8 months ago; we were friends for half a year before that. She got cheated on in her long distance relationship before.

The friend who invited me to the sea I actually know for almost as long as my partner, from the beginning of Uni. She had a breakup from a three-year old relationship a few months ago, and I was there to support her. I didn't clarify before though if she was okay with me cuddling with people or not; I assumed it was with her, because it was okay in her LDR before - which was wrong of me. I overstepped the boundaries of my partner here.

The friend in question kissed me at the neck while I was at hers. I talked with her about it and let her know that I wasn't okay with it, to which she reacted quite hurt. She then told me that we shouldn't be friends, but two weeks ago she collapsed at Uni and I brought her home. Now we are meeting again.

While I'm writing this down, I'm actually starting to notice that there are a lot of other factors playing in why my partner is upset here. She has been cheated on in the past, which definitely leads her to feel uncomfortable about my actions, even though I obviously don't want to cheat. I broke a societally unwritten rule of not meeting people in romantically coded settings on your partners birthday. And I overstepped the boundary of my partner before by cuddling with the friend without my partners consent.


 
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They just want a snackie snack :)

 

He always looks like that :)

 

And then you always want to crawl into my bed and cuddle. Theo, you are adorable, but why do you ALWAYS need to get dirty before coming home 🥲

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I love you, Theo.

Also he is the biggest potato this world has ever seen ;)

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