chobeat

There's a lot of lefitsts spaces in the blockchain. While they are minoritarian, they have a distinct political agenda and set of values, separate from most of the web3 world. They either envision the usage of blockchain for local economies (an evolution of circular economy and local currencies that were popular in the 90's and 2000s), or more global scale realignment of incentives, either through socialist market economies or more planning-oriented solutions.

because it's in Latin (or Italian)...

I know people that occupied the offices. They were perfectly aware they would be fired and the people selected for the action were the least vulnerable economically, because retaliation was certain. Anything else is journalistic spin.

solarpunk is inherently utopian. Utopias exist to inspire and to reflect on the present. It tells us that there can be a social system in which technology is good, but then if to be optimistic or not is very subjective. Many pessimistic people like utopias exactly because they highlight the ugliness of reality.

That's exactly how eventually you are going to get Trump. Voting the lesser evil always, inevitably leads to the major evil. I live in a country that already elected fascists with this same logic and US is going to follow soon.

everything that has happened so far has happened under a dem administration. 40+k deaths and endless displaced. Stop being delusional, dems are genocidal and you're guilty too.

why? how? how do you rationalize this when the Biden administration is openly endorsing and supporting genocide? How could Trump make it worse? Write racist slurs on the bombs sent to Israel?

The core difference between longtermism and solarpunk is that longtermism stems from an utilitarian frame, while solarpunk rejects it. Radical utilitarianism like longtermist fashos and oligarchs gives them a way out to commit the worst crimes against humanity because of a supposed good that will materialize in a distant future. It's a moral free pass, exploiting the life of future humans (who cannot protest) to justify the oppression and exploitation of current humans (who are indeed protesting these assholes).

Solarpunk and longtermism are in no way on the same spectrum.

Techno-optimism has always been used to criticize this attitude, together with techno-chauvinism. Techno-utopianism is a less loaded term that might encompass more positive visions of technology, like the attitude towards space exploration in the 60's coming from the soviet union.

"Optimism" in general is not necessarily the term we want to reclaim from the right: it's wishy-washy, boring, mediocre. "I'm not going to do much, I'll be on autopilot, because tech is good and it will sort stuff out. I don't care too much about taking a position, beyond passively trusting tech". Optimism is the happy trust of a dog on a leash going for a walk.

you use "luddite" as if it's an insult. History proved luddites were right in their demands and they were fighting the good fight.

we do, and anybody telling you "it's complicated" has an agenda.

Please yankee, don't make everything happening in the world about you