Thanks for this. I was one of the "Tankies" getting downvoted in that thread. That whole thread was really confusing. Like is Europe being that Nationalistic?
If there is one thing I know about Europe is that each country may have its own nationalism but "European Nationalism" is just when they decide collectively to deport/and or murder Jews and brown people.
They really expanded their banning too. My ten year old account got banned for telling a guy that was defending the third Nazi salute to "go to hell". Was banned and then had the appeal just confirm the ban.
New account basically uses your Internet footprint to ban any accounts you make. I could get around it but it just is not fucking worth it at that point.
If they want to keep Nazis on their platform and ban the people that tell them to go to hell Reddit will be like 4chan quickly.
Hell, I feel every website is becoming 4chan these days. Twitter and Facebook are cesspools. Fuck reddit.
Absolutely. Thanks for the receipts.
I mean Canada literally honored a WW2 vet for a Ukrainian that "fought Russia" in WW2. Like, no thought "who was fighting the USSR in Ukraine in WW2?"
Yep. A lot of Nazi leaders began making their connections with the west as it became obvious that the USSR was winning in the Eastern front as well as Operation Paperclip, etc.
Would love to know where you're getting your numbers from for the US and China. I surely hope it's not just the AI response on top of Google. But that's what it seems like. You'd literally have to write a whole research paper to get a good comparison because these are heavily consumer based subsidies within each country and China just has a much larger market it sells to heavily inflating the credit because of population. Also, you didn't list a date range for your 30 Billion number.
You also have to account for state level subsidies and tax credits in the US in addition to Federal programs, grants, loans, etc. Would love to read a paper on this if you have a source.
But, even using your numbers 30 Billion (something I don't think is accounting for State or EV infrastructure spending; but again, I'd like to see a source) is not a "drop in the bucket". It's 13% of what you listed for China over 14 years. Interestingly enough China also outselling the US in terms of market share. Comparing the subsidies of a country that owns the plurality of the market to one that does not is silly. Subsidies are going to increase WITH sales. China is selling significantly more cars. You'd have to compare the subsidies and adjust them based on units sold.
Doing some "Google AI response results" myself China is selling about 8x more EVs than the US (in 2023).
Hmmm. 8x30 = 240 billion. Weird. Again, I'm not taking my numbers seriously but I'm not taking your numbers seriously either because you didn't sight a source, adjust for units sold, or give a date range for your US numbers.
But you're just not comparing this correctly. You HAVE to adjust for units sold. Which you are not.
My dude the US subsidizes the shit out of its electric car industry. When someone brings up "supply and demand" and just tries to pretend that the economy is exactly what they learned in their econ101 class.
They are doing the tarrifs on Chinese EVS because (1) they can't compete on price and (2) the Chinese EVS are just a superior product.
You're right on China though. They are just doing exactly what the US has done for decades. It's just that the US doesn't like having to actually compete with another country. So instead of actually making better and cheaper cars they instead just decide to tell the American people "nah, looks like you're just being a shit Tesla"
The US loves to say "free market" but notice how they don't allow a free market to force their industry to actually innovate and compete.
China is not "cheating" by subsidizing it's industry. That's literally just standard shit every government does. Thats just an excuse. America is subsidizing it's EVs too. They just have worse EVs.
Nothing quite says "American Capitalist bootlicker" more than proudly paying more for an inferior product while complaining that it's the Communists fault.
I mean they're happy because right now it's just "owning the libs". When their social security checks don't show up or their Medicaid gets denied I like to think they'll learn. But the Republicans are already trying to line that up to be "corruption and immigrants". I also like to think that the Republicans will lose some of their propaganda power the longer they are in office. You can only hit the "blame DEI" button so many times before it doesn't work anymore.
Sometimes I think Democrat establishment bootlickers actually wanted to lose just so they could write comments like this.
Are you gonna be like the lady that called ICE on her neighbor because the son voted for Trump to get his parents deported? Like, you have no actual moral compass. You just want your team to win and will attack anyone that might hurt your team. You're attacking people that are against genocide for not voting for a candidate that supports genocide.
Yeah aren't Maltese a pretty healthy breed of dog? (I think thats what that dog is) Inbreeding obviously fucks that up but definitely not a bad breed of dog. I know they have pretty long lifespans.