JesseoftheNorth

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[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Cool deflection. If only we could do both…

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing riles up Americans more than being told “no”. I owe you nothing. I was simply pointing out that a member of a country/culture that violently subjugated another country/culture doesn’t morally or ethically get to decide that what they do or say is or isn’t offensive to the country/culture that they violently subjugated.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well now I’m saying you can’t be offended by what I said. You have to agree with me, because freedom of speech or whatever.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I agree that it isn’t that simple, and as I said in another comment here, people of a specific culture will have differing opinions and feelings on the matter. That doesn’t mean that non-Hawaiians get to decide what is offensive to Hawaiians, and that is what I am addressing.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a difference. OP is asking if indigenous Hawaiians would find it offensive. You have been stating that it isn’t as a matter of fact, even though it’s not for you decide.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Again, I ask you, what do you think gives you the right to decide?

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who is “they”? Just because the state tourism bureau does it, doesn’t mean it necessarily represents the will or wishes of indigenous Hawaiians.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Then you have no right to speak for them or decide what is or isn’t offensive to them.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some indigenous Hawaiians would find it offensive and some wouldn’t. Hawaiians are not some homogeneous entity sharing the same thoughts and sensibilities. That being said, it sounds like the event centres around cultural stereotypes, which are romanticized from a western point of view, from a specific point in time, and in that sense I would find it in poor taste, but I am not Hawaiian. In my opinion, these sorts of things marginalize cultures more than they “celebrate” them. I would encourage you to try to educate your daughter on the history of colonialism in Hawaii, as that won’t be covered in class in any detail, I’d wager.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Are you indigenous?

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everything is political. For example, Maude Flanders was killed off in the Simpsons because of a pay dispute between the voice actor and the studio.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ragebait title. Bullying is one thing. Death threats is another. That goes way beyond simple bullying. The arrest was fully justified.

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