Oh I have a pretty okay understanding about Ukranian politics since Euromaidan and the start of the war. I also think that I have a good grasp on why Zelensky was so popular. I suppose you believe yourself to have an equivalent grasp of it?
Since you won't point out any faults in my comments, I'll take it as there are none?
Well I reread the thread and no, it's unclear. Could you please specify?
Sorry, what?
I think I made a pretty good point? There's pictures of old elections showing a divided Ukraine chosing between Russia and Europe. I provided pictures of a more recent election showing a broad support, bridging that divide, for a pro-EU party with a presidential election with the same result.
What did I get wrong?
Well you said their party platform was about normalizing relations with Russia and implementing the Minsk agreements and I couldn't find anything about that other than maybe restoring the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine might include that since Zelensky talked about holding fair and free elections there.
The pictures posted before my replied gave the impression that you had two sides with one wanting to close ties with the EU and one with Russia. Since they were old elections from 2004 and 2010 the one from 2019 gives a much more different picture, telling us that the party with a platform of relaunching their relations with their western neighbours and implementing the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement and expand cooperation with the EU and NATO had a broad support over the country, not dividing it in two halves. So that's why I included that if that's what you mean. Otherwise I don't quite follow what you're asking.
Sure, I can explain the meaning of democracy for you again. :) It's when the people have a say in either who will represent them or direct influence of legislation.
Where did I state that Russia had something against Ukraines relations with the west?
In that case you could say that North Korea is a democracy since almost 100% of the voters vote for Kim Jong-Un. I'm sure that you agree that that is rubbish.
Anyway, this obviously proves that the meaning of democracy is debated and not true for all, making the first comment true.^^
So I looked up their party platform of 2019, and it said that their goal was to restore the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine. That might include the Minsk agreements, since I remember Zelensky talking about having free and fair referendrums in Donbass and Luhansk regarding autonomy.
However, nothing about relations with Russia, only stuff about implementing the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement and expand cooperation with the EU and NATO. Also something about relaunching their relations with their western neighbours?
What relevance does it have if it works or not? This is the actual meaning of democracy, from ancient Greek? You can tell them they got it wrong if you want but I hardly think they care.
Why did you ask if you already knew?
There were posted images of old elections, giving the impression of a country divided by pro-europe or pro-russia when in 2019 there was a big support for the pro-EU and pro-NATO party all over the country. Just wanted to provide some context there.
You don't have to know every partys platform to have a grasp about the politics lol. No, you made statements which I adequately replied to.
Well, thanks for the last word then I suppose.