Dontcare

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[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your premise that there is land which is reserved for arabs is false. If there is empty land Jews can live there. I don't care for the idea that arabs live freely in Israel with equal rights while in the west bank, or Jordan, or Iraq Jews cannot live there, have equal rights and in fact would be killed.

You have had 75 yrs against Israel legitimacy and Israel has to take steps for security. Israel is tiny. Why can't Jordan, which is a part of Palestine give land to the Palestinians or the state of Israel? Why was the entire land of Jordan given to 'the heshimite family' who are not even native to the land ?

It is clear to anyone clear thinking person that islamic outlook is fascist and has been at open war against Jews and non Muslims for decades and centuries. And that they have been defeated, are the losers, and now peddle this pathetic propaganda and it takes root because of weak minded people whose thoughts are based on childish slogans that are recited in unison, have you read 1984?

This is why the media is so highly censored in these places, that they scream over any debate, they are violent fascists, relying on censorship and propaganda, using any means to advance their idiotic religious agenda.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No hamas has not https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

And regardless of what they say their actions speak louder than words and they lie about absolutely everything, how naive.couod you be? Didn't you see hamas on cnn this week saying things like they did not target civilians on 10/7, they are decrepit.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The UN is not the arbitrator of morality.

Before 1967 the arabs refused to accept the state of Israel and launched a war to destroy it in 1967 so they lost the land. The land is not held for them in perpetuity to attack and attack... If they want peace they have to give in peace, if they attack them they should be attacked, it is simple.

No one should be kept in prison but you keep a murderer in prison because of what they've done.

At this point you will say, well what about what Israel did... And I promise you if you go back pals have instigated every conflict. They are unwilling to live in peace with non Muslim, they follow a fascist Islamic ideology and are explicit about it. The jews , who are the natives of the land, have repeatedly shown a willingness to live in peace with arabs, with a pal state and with arabs in the Jewish state. During the Oslo peace negotiations they talked about putting Arab areae of Israel under the PLO and the Israeli arabs absolutely refused, Arabs living in Israel have better quality of life than anywhere in the Arab world, Arab countries are corrupt theocracies, Israel is a liberal democracy , this is why the fascist Muslims hate it, this is what they are talking about when they say 'european colonialsim', that it's not a fascist Muslim theocracy

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe better than Europeans but not 'well' there have been discriminatory laws in many Muslim countries over the years and most Muslim countries have ethnically cleaned their countries of Jews, Jewish communities in Iraq, syria etc... Pre date islam.

And of course under ottoman rule their were laws against Jews immigrating to palestine

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Are you old enough to remember the Olso accords and the peace process? Pals have been offered states numerous times, they don't want it , they want to fight, every resource they use for terror. Israel is just supposed to make concessions until the pals come around to peace ? They will not.

You don't understand the mindset, if you lived in any Muslim country particularly in the Midwest you would find things very difficult, particularly if you are a women, or gay, or a non Muslim. They will kill a woman who doesn't wear her scarf, forget about talking to men... these people are fascist in a way that you do not understand

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can look up the hamas charter, they advocate genocide.

You are ignorant of history, pals have been offered statehood numerous times throughout the years and their position has always been there can be no Jewish presence in Israel.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The simple reality is that islam is a fascist religion and are willing to live in peace with a Jewish state of any borders, look up the 1948 UN partition, whereas Israel has made numerous offers and concessions to peace over the year.

I promise you any thing you say for why pals are justified in their actions because of their oppression is a distortion of history, that pals have started every single conflict.

Unless your position is that the quaran was revealed to Mohamed by God and Hamas has interpreted correctly to say that there can only be Muslim nations in the world then you are supporting fascist idiotic terrorists.

Jews are the natives of the land, you can see there is a mosque built on the Jewish temple, Islam is the colonizer, islam is intolerant, and it's not just in Israel, it's in many countries

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago

They're not intentionally bombing civilians, you are repeating about. Hamas' attacks civilians and hides behind civilians

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

By internationally recognized you mean recognized by the Muslim community.

Up until 1967 Egypt controlled gaza and Jordan the west bank and there was no talk of peace, the line has always been there can be no state of Israel in any form. Within the last 20 years pals have been offered states on the 1967 borders and refused. The Oslo accords which included incremental steps to peace led to nothing but terrorism, all the aid pals receive they use for terrorism. They have explicitly unanimously said for decades that they will fight Israel to the death and have not made any offers or concessions to peace and you want to just these Islamic fundamentalist to behave if they let them into Israel? Do you know the history of Lebanon. You are native if you think you can trust hamas', ISIS... Did you not see hamas on TV saying they didn't target civilians in their attacks?

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