ChowJeeBai

Good counterpoint mate. Will have to avoid those too, then.

Just give trump ALL the credit on this one.

Ive actually heard of internet connected soldering irons. I feel your pain.

Learned a new word: mendacious

Heh. Thats a whole 'nother can, friend. Can relate though - I do that on my phone. I just hate my tv nagging me that the version of the os/ app is old, but the manufacturer doesn't provide any more updates. The old school stuff I inherited works fine for 40+ years.

Because I lose features I bought the tv for? I mean, if the selling point is a YouTube/ netflix/ spotify client, then 3 years down the line when the Netflix client is no longer compatible with the current service, and can't be updated because the TV's OS isn't being updated by the manufacturer any more, it means I have to buy another device, which I could have done in the beginning. So now I want a dumb tv so I can pair it with anything I want for years (HDMI will be around a lot longer than Netflix v3.x.xxxx), instead of having a tv filled with zombie apps I can't delete.

The spyware is there as long as I'm using the services. So it's not what is bothering me, though it's the common bogeyman. It's the forced obsolescence and waste.

Someone put him to sleep already.

The dumbass doesn't know he's being played by his aides and their republican masters. He's just their tool.

Agree with everything there, but man. I wouldn't want to get on the bad side of your imagination.

Ok. Let's vindicate the fuck out of MAGA then!

Thanks man. I'm not interested in getting off the grid. These things are essential to daily life for me. I just don't understand why my washer needs AI or something dumb like that. The tv should take a signal and display it. Anything outside of that can be done with an external device. So yeah, I've been researching the business displays and large monitors.

That's what the thread was meant to be about. Seems to have turned into a beat up on the luddites thing, with a few notable and rather helpful exceptions. Maybe I should have marked it [serious]. Oh well.

Yo mama so fat, her laundry hamper comes with a V6.