AdaghastTheMad

joined 1 year ago
[–] AdaghastTheMad@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I can definitely see your points, and I for sure can agree that it would take a MONSTROUS amount of luck and screwups on MS’s side for Minetest to get anywhere close to Minecraft’s popularity and acclaim. But I do think that, while generative AI can DEFINITELY close the gap between what AAA and indie can produce, I do think that it doesn’t take much, even in the modern day to make a game that feels solid to a player. People can call pixel art a crutch all they want, but it makes for timeless graphics on a relative shoestring budget that most folks, even folks who didn’t grow up in the pixelated days of yore, still find deeply charming and appealing. And even games that go for more rounded appearances, if they lean into stylistic efforts enough, can make really solid graphics for way cheaper than the latest UE showcase game. Past that, stuff like UX and game feel can be done well through either tried and true methodologies, or inspiring reinvention of them (see every “your inventory is a/the core mechanic” indie game out there). And while I’m gonna say more budget-requiring things like voiceover can be tough to get right, even in a boomtime of indie voice-actors, I’m gonna say a lot of folks can get away without it (I will happily defend little beeps and boops accompanying text as a great way to convey character without spoken voice lines. One of my favourite gaming conventions).

All this to say that yes, there are hurdles. But indies have been surmounting their budgetary limitations to reach critical acclaim as a matter of course for years now. And will FOSS games have just as much, if not more hurdles to cross, there is real hope for a competitive landscape of truly open, communal games even before you consider the potential for AI to close the gap.

What is “mainstream” anymore is nebulous at best. All I hope for is for stuff like this to become popular enough to be self-perpetuating. For communities to pass the torch of wanting to make FOSS software on and on towards new and different endeavours. And, if stuff like Minetest continues to catch the eye of those willing to give it a platform. I think we may well have a shot at that future yet.

[–] AdaghastTheMad@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Just cross-posted and it seems to work! Though, if they like it or not is a whole different story. Wish me luck!

[–] AdaghastTheMad@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw nuts. I just posted it in the community. Hopefully the conversation I aim to start around it is at least a slightly different vibe from the last one. If folks complain, I’ll happily remove it, but I’ll cross my fingers in the meantime!

 

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/651713

(Boy I hope cross-posting your own stuff isn’t a no-no or anything. Apologies if it is! But I thought this would be relevant here also, and I hope you all enjoy!)

And today in “The Dimmest Silhouette of a Potentially Less Poop Future”, Mumbo Jumbo, the famous Minecraft redstone creator/general famous Minecraft-player on YouTube released this week what was initially meant to be a video of him just goofing around in “Minetest” a Lua-based, open-source Minecraft-like game that was designed to basically be a base game engine where folks could build their own game onto it using the integrated modding system. But by the end of it, he was having legitimate fun playing with the redstone-analogue mod he downloaded, and openly talked about the waves of nostalgia he got exploring the game in general, as it slightly, but notably, varied from OG Minecraft.

Now, I’m actually a touch less cynical about the way MC has been handled by Microsoft in the past few years than some folks (though the recent debacle about them cracking down on suggestive content and gun mods has me a more than a little worried about them legitimately beginning to overreach beyond sense. As though the single most downloaded video game in existence needs help with its image). But I legitimately think stuff like this is an amazing potential starting point for folks, especially YOUNG folks, to get excited about FOSS gaming. And open source software in general.

Minecraft’s greatest asset was its modability, but its growing monetization in Bedrock Edition, and the general corporate vibes coming off of a lot of its high-level decisions since MS bought it has really taken its toll on that prospect. But with stuff like Minetest, and other games like it that seek to give people free, open-source tools to build and share their creations and passions amongst each other, I think there really stands to be a chance for folks who, like myself just a year ago, never really paid much mind to open-source, community-driven software to have a chance to jump into the scene. And maybe find out they feel better for it.

Discussions welcome in the comments! I don’t expect everyone to share my hopefulness. But I do hope you give it a chance. A measured level of scrutiny is key to any movement, but so are good amounts of positive vibes and aspirations for the future. So if nothing else, I’d love to hear what y’all think about the potential for FOSS gaming in general, and/or what you think FOSS gaming and the greater adoption of FOSS alternatives could look like if fate favours it and/or efforts by the community increase in the future.

Hope you’re having/had a good day!

[–] AdaghastTheMad@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This is maybe an odd first comment on my own post, but does anyone know about the etiquette regarding cross-posting on Beehaw? I feel like the Open Source Software community channel would also appreciate this, but I don’t know if I should just repost it wholesale there also, or if there’s some actualy functionality to X-post it over there built in yet. Thoughts?

 

And today in “The Dimmest Silhouette of a Potentially Less Poop Future”, Mumbo Jumbo, the famous Minecraft redstone creator/general famous Minecraft-player on YouTube released this week what was initially meant to be a video of him just goofing around in “Minetest” a Lua-based, open-source Minecraft-like game that was designed to basically be a base game engine where folks could build their own game onto it using the integrated modding system. But by the end of it, he was having legitimate fun playing with the redstone-analogue mod he downloaded, and openly talked about the waves of nostalgia he got exploring the game in general, as it slightly, but notably, varied from OG Minecraft.

Now, I’m actually a touch less cynical about the way MC has been handled by Microsoft in the past few years than some folks (though the recent debacle about them cracking down on suggestive content and gun mods has me a more than a little worried about them legitimately beginning to overreach beyond sense. As though the single most downloaded video game in existence needs help with its image). But I legitimately think stuff like this is an amazing potential starting point for folks, especially YOUNG folks, to get excited about FOSS gaming. And open source software in general.

Minecraft’s greatest asset was its modability, but its growing monetization in Bedrock Edition, and the general corporate vibes coming off of a lot of its high-level decisions since MS bought it has really taken its toll on that prospect. But with stuff like Minetest, and other games like it that seek to give people free, open-source tools to build and share their creations and passions amongst each other, I think there really stands to be a chance for folks who, like myself just a year ago, never really paid much mind to open-source, community-driven software to have a chance to jump into the scene. And maybe find out they feel better for it.

Discussions welcome in the comments! I don’t expect everyone to share my hopefulness. But I do hope you give it a chance. A measured level of scrutiny is key to any movement, but so are good amounts of positive vibes and aspirations for the future. So if nothing else, I’d love to hear what y’all think about the potential for FOSS gaming in general, and/or what you think FOSS gaming and the greater adoption of FOSS alternatives could look like if fate favours it and/or efforts by the community increase in the future.

Hope you’re having/had a good day!

[–] AdaghastTheMad@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

You know what? I’ll have to keep that in mind. It been a considerable length of time since I just kinda made a friend or two whilst browsing a new media landscape. And while it didn’t exactly work out well every time, I do think it’s worth it to try and reach out to folks, rather than assume the worst forever. Hopefully some of the faces on here can grow to feel familiar, and in the meantime, I’ll do my best to keep my mind open to the possibility.

[–] AdaghastTheMad@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I don’t know if I could’ve come up with a more succinct action if you’d paid me. Cheers to all of that for sure! I do worry how many of the subreddits I used to post in might still be locked down as a result of continuing protest (I haven’t checked, nor checked on the status of the reinstatement drama for the benefit of my own sanity), but I’ll do my best to keep Beehaw and the rest of the Lemmyverse in mind when I see content worth sharing! And in the meantime, I’ll do my best to post in places like this as either a main poster or commenter. Adding to conversation in the ways I can, and fostering good vibes whenever possible. Here’s hoping!

 

I know part of the whole point of the migration is starting out fresh and getting a chance to be contribute to a relatively developing community (this is my first post by the way. Hope I’m doing my part!). And that seems really great! But, as someone who was in the generational bracket where, once I was old enough to get into Reddit, it was already fairly well-developed and thriving, getting into something THIS new is… Weird.

I was never the kind of person who got into anything ahead of the mainstream (mostly because I never got into much of anything, period, and have been relatively agnostic on Social Media in general outside of Reddit) and now, being here, I don’t really know what to do with myself as I just kinda… Wait. Wait for the cultures to mature, for dynamics to form and develop, for the list of communities both here and elsewhere to not just increase in number, but in content. And, while I know it literally can’t happen if even a significant fraction of people feel like this, a part of me does kinda wish I could blink away from all of this and come back when, hopefully, the whole of the Fediverse (Threadiverse? Is that what we call Reddit-analogues specifically? Again, new here, and trying to learn the terms) is more mature and filled-out.

All in all, despite these feelings, I wanna be here on the ground floor contributing. And I wish anyone else in this mindset luck in doing so too, as long as they’re comfortable! Hopefully together, we can all build something fun. :)