Hi, everybody! Sorry for the rant! I'm Cross-Posting this from my other account on Beehaw, because I'd love to hear others' thoughts on this. I don't see much discussion about this and I'm really curious if maybe I'm viewing this all wrong.

I'm just posting this as a combination of question and vent. Does anyone else here feel frustrated by the current ethical dilemmas of purchasing games from certain companies? My partner is very tuned into the various ethical mishaps happening in the world and keeps me apprised of which companies are doing shitty stuff and which people/companies I should stop supporting. This is important to remember, but it is also frustrating to see how many companies out there are doing bad things.

This is a very "first world problem," but it's frustrating just how many games out there look cool, but I can't play them because it'd be giving those companies/people money. The biggest examples are Activision Blizzard, J.K. Rowling, and Wizards of the Coast. I think Baldurs Gate 3, for example, looks so awesome, but I don't feel comfortable playing it because my partner has alerted me that some of that money would go to Wizards. I feel somewhat frustrated that the discussion around these issues has evaporated when the games are released; it's as though people stopped caring about the bad things these companies/people did. To be entirely honest, I'm not sure if I myself would be able to keep myself accountable if my partner doesn't remind me of it; I think I may have bought the games like everyone else because of how fun they look, and how much they remind me of games I grew up on.

On a similar note, as my partner is working on becoming a game developer, he follows the state of game development and tells me about it, which seems bleak. I mourn the old studios that I used to have a lot of enjoyment for, like BioWare and the others that EA ate up.

Thanks for reading all of this. :) I wish things were more hopeful, I suppose. My partner urges me to support indie developers, so I'm trying to move in that direction. Does anyone have any recommendations on staying hopeful, given the current state of entertainment?

TL;DR: I'm frustrated by the current largely-unethical state of the games industry and want to know how I can regain some hope about it.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know this is a bit of a meme, but there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. It's entirely a question of where you choose to draw the line.

This applies to a lot of causes/principles I care about, but to illustrate with my stance on LGBT issues:

If a company openly donates directly to anti-LGBT causes? I'd boycott them, no further questions needed.
If a high ranking member of a company donates to anti-LGBT causes using their own (likely unethically obtained) funds? I'd boycott for sure unless their product/service is an absolute necessity.
If a company is headquartered in a state/country that is anti-LGBT? I would definitely boycott as long as there is a suitable alternative.
If a company pays/employs people who are anti-LGBT? Gosh, well, that's probably most companies. Is it possible to account for how every individual employee/beneficiary chooses to spend the money they make for their work? I have no capacity to make choices at this point.

Those are my lines.

When I shop at the supermarket, I have to accept that there are likely people working there somewhere with horrible beliefs whose income is financially supported by my patronage. When I buy clothing, I have to accept that there are probably products I've purchased that are made through exploitative labor practices. When it is within my means to spend capital more ethically, I will. But it is absolutely not possible for me to ensure that every dollar I spend goes to a worthwhile cause or to someone who deserves it.

The Good Place really illustrated this point well in the later episodes. In the modern world where everything is so much more interconnected than ever before, we need to redefine traditional ethics to better consider what is practical for normal people. And the worse your circumstances are, the harder it is to have that luxury of choice.

[–] emeraldheart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You illustrate your point very well, and with it you've helped me make a more clear decision. Your emphasis on the ability to choose, the luxury of multiple options, has clarified for me that I do in fact have quite a few options. I can chop out Acti-Blizz, JK Rowling, and WotC and still have tons of great sources of media. I have so many other choices.

With clothing as you've stated - and I think food applies here as well - I don't have much in the way of choice unless I want to make my own clothes/grow my own food - and I do not have the skills for that.

But with video games, which themselves are a luxury, I can stand to be a little more picky. I can always pirate the games later :)

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

You have to pick your battles, and trying to track every terrible thing that every company has done is tiring and futile. Most the AAA games I've paid for recently are MS owned, which is arguable to boycott. Then there's things like free games from Amazon, does that count as buying, what if it's an EA game or from Epic game store? Really that's three terrible companies.

Play what you want, if a company is too reprehensible to you then don't buy their stuff. The more you think about the more miserable it makes you and has no effect on any of these companies.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I just buy games that I think I'll enjoy.

Perhaps I'm old-fashioned.

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Jesus... if you beat yourself up this much over games, how do you deal with stuff that really matters. Do you moralize over the gas you buy? Do you consider the cable company who gives you the internet connection, when you have only one option? Do you freak out over every single piece of food you purchase, and the supermarket you buy it from, and the television you watch?

Or do you only wax endlessly on video games? Play what you want to, or don't, but you're putting way too much thought into this, and if that's what you want to do, you've made your choice, but then perhaps you need to stop buying almost all video games, and read up on crunch, because almost every video game is made at the expense of their employees, and their mental health.

You do you. I'll continue to support companies who I think make a good product, and not avoid stuff like Hogwarts Legacy, or Balder's Gate, because I realize the majority of the money I spend to pay for those games go to the developers who worked extremely hard to give fans something special.

[–] lonke@feddit.nu 3 points 1 year ago

Piracy.

[–] youngerpants@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Terrible people have produced magnificent "content" since Oog and Tharg first painted on cave walls. I love the work of Wagner, even though I'm not a Nazi. Fan of Lovecraft even though his standards are equally shitty. I adore American Psycho even though B E Ellis comes across as an utter tool. Picasso was a womanizing prick, boardering on paedophile. Great painter though.

Feel free to vote with your wallet, but if you become too sensitive to the moral and ethical views of people, or "some" of the people working for companies, you'll miss out on some masterpieces.

Having said that, I won't buy any Kelloggs products because fuck Kelloggs. Does that make me a hypocrite? Maybe a little, but we all need our lines in the sand.

[–] Penta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Indie games are the way to go. Way less predatory and often better anyways.

[–] krzschlss@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ahoy matey. Quite a conundrum ya have there. Th' winds be fair in times like this... may yer briny deep be bountiful!