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In one of the most iconic moments coming out of World Youth Day, Pope Francis called on the hundreds of thousands gathered before him to yell back at him that the Catholic Church is for "todos, todos, todos" -- everyone, everyone, everyone.

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Taking questions from reporters aboard his flight back to Rome after a five-day trip to Portugal, the pope was asked how he could reconcile his "todos" message with the fact that LGBTQ+ people are excluded from the sacraments. The pope answered the Church has laws, but is still a place for everyone.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Non-answers to appease all, as always.

[–] Multech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yup, just proves that he's still just a piece of shit at the end of the day.

[–] Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

So sex outside marriage is a mortal sin, and we still aren't allowed to get married in the Catholic Church. Got it.

[–] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They welcome everyone…to put money in the basket.

[–] Stench5692@artemis.camp 11 points 1 year ago

"Everyone is welcome here, even the gays. They're just lesser members who can't actually participate in the sacraments. But they're still welcome! They're just like, 3/5ths welcome..."

  • the Catholic Church, probably
[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

it's for everyone, and yet they won't update their "rules" to actually include them.

[–] talab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I as a queer person who grew up in a Catholic country always felt very welcome

/s

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's easy and cheap for him to just claim "it's for everyone" without actually doing anything to address the bigotry, systemic issues, and culture surrounding the religion. I get the impression this is by intent.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"the pope was asked how he could reconcile his "todos" message with the fact that LGBTQ+ people are excluded from the sacraments. The pope answered the Church has laws, but is still a place for everyone."

Equal but different.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, ok, sure Francis.

[–] nathanjell@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

Oh yes, it's for everyone alright. You're welcome to join, please help save the crumbling membership numbers, but you can never be close to equal and will never have the same rights. But it's totally for everyone.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Great, now ask most Catholics what they think of this idea.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PR pope says PR talking point. Jorge Mario Bergoglio was a piece of shit homophobic bigot, long before he was made pope. Still refuses to meet or acknowledge the victims of his clergy. He's nothing but talk, and not even his own followers listen to him. Go to any third world country full of Catholics and see if they treat LGBT people well because the pope said so.

Also, how does he claim to be pro lgbt while passing decrees that prevent priests from blessing same sex unions?

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How self loathing can a person be?

"I need to pick a religion, but I can't decide which.. oh, yes, Catholicism looks good."

You 👏 don't 👏 need 👏 religion. Just live your life. Make genuine connections with friends. Be good to everyone. Try to leave the world better than it would have been without you. No magic required.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The magic isn't even real.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then I assume he's going to apologize for this?

Roman Catholic Church Pours $2 Million into Discrimination against LGBT Americans - November 15, 2012

The Roman Catholic Church hierarchy funneled $2 million into entirely unsuccessful efforts to advance discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people in the four marriage ballot states of Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, and Washington this election cycle. An updated HRC report, available at www.hrc.org/catholicreport, provides a snapshot of just how much money the Church, along with its close ally the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), poured into campaigns aimed solely at depriving LGBT Americans of dignity and respect.

Good PR move to distract where the diacese spend their cash. We know what the Catholic Church values based on the money they spend trying to influence politics; hey, just like the time they spent millions trying to prevent the statute of limitations from being expanded for child sexual abuse...

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I categorically state that syphilis is for everyone. Syphilis doesnt discriminate. Any takers?

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

No it fucking isn't. Fuck the pope.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Good for Pope Francis.

[–] style99@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

It is progress, though there is still a long way to go.