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End of an era: Zoom tells employees to return to office for work::Zoom is asking all of its employees to return to the office for the first time since the COVID-19 pandemic began, when the tech company blew up as one of the main means of communication when people were forced to work from home.

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[–] MicTEST@ttrpg.network 189 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty bad optics when your company depends on enabling collaboration in virtual settings.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is indeed bizarre. They're saying "zoom is no longer required"

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

They rather say "we don't solve the problem"

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Leading by watching asses in seats.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m a simple man… I see “NY Post,” I click the downvote button.

[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the point of Zoom as a product then?

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So CEOs can do another corporate word salad all hands meeting while at his beach house.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

To talk to coworkers in other buildings I guess. That's what it seems to be for these days.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Clickbaity article

Zoom [...] is now asking all employees within 50 miles of a company office to go in at least two days a week on a hybrid schedule.

So it's not "all of it's employees". Plus, it's a hybrid schedule, which, for better or worse, has now become a standard across most organisations around the world.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Not that clickbait though. They are selling a product that makes WFH possible and yet aren’t fully utilizing it. Where are they located? 50 miles is a long commute.

[–] AlgonquinHawk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I honestly think it’s good to get into the office space just for a change of mentality and scenery and a little socialization. Helps you get out of being at home all the time kind of funk.

[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why so many companies are obsessed with getting their employees back to the office, not needing to have everyone within a 1 hour radius of your offices opens a lot of doors when it comes to recruitment while not affecting performance.

[–] jadegear@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd speculate some combination of control over employees (poor management practices, etc) and making use of owned land/offices that are difficult to sell otherwise. Not much else makes sense to me, especially for tech companies where nearly the entire job exists in virtual space of some kind - no wrenches to turn.

Edit: Someone else suggested a way to "lay off" folks by having them voluntarily leave the job to avoid the return to office. That also sounds pretty plausible to me with the extent to which companies are starting to squeeze with what feels like an incoming recession period.

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Using it as a way to reduce your workforce is so short sighted. The top performers are the ones most capable of getting a new job and most willing to leave over the issue. Instead of it being a calculated set of layoffs in specific areas of the company it’ll just be all the good employees leaving.

[–] maporita@unilem.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Recent analysis of data suggests that productivity suffers when employees work remotely, and the effect is more dramatic the longer people remain away. This contradicts earlier studies conducted during the pandemic.

I'm not saying I agree.. just that this is the reason.

[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any sources? All I can find is articles from Forbes

[–] maporita@unilem.org 1 points 1 year ago

Here is a recent paper that showed an 18% decline in productivity when workers moved remotely.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w31515.

Another study, originally published during the pandemic, initially found an 8% increase in the number of calls handled per hour by employees of an online retailer when they began working from home. The original study is here.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/eharrington/publications/working-remotely-selection-treatment-and-market-provision-remote-work.

Apparently new analysis of the data has shown a 4% decline instead of an 8% improvement. I can't find the revised analysis but this was quoted in Bloomberg and the Economist .. both behind pay walls unfortunately.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because most people can't wfh. I work with many that maybe do 1 or 2 hours of actual work every day. When they're in the office, their productivity doubles. Management won't fire them because it takes over a year to fill most positions. And the pay is very high so it's not that.

[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

That's not the results most studies show.

[–] JonnyJ@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Get this shitty rag out of here. NYPost is fucking propaganda spreading filth

[–] justhach@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[–] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

They have no confidence in their own product.