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[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very good article. And very powerful statements from the colonel. I hope that our governments can get them the weapons they need which are wasting away in storage.

Slava Ukraini

[–] str00pwafel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"Mach 10 missle" lol okay

[–] canadaduane@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

OMG:

He disclosed that in December Ukrainian authorities had been on the brink of ordering the complete evacuation of Kyiv due to the intensity of Russian airstrikes. “Not many people know this, but Kyiv was on the verge of evacuation,” he said. “There was one battle that, in my opinion, determined the fate of Kyiv and the Russian campaign to destroy our energy sector, when 49 cruise missiles were launched at Kyiv.”

In a desperate 15 minutes on December 16, Ukraine fired dozens of missiles from its Soviet-era S-300, American Nasams and German Iris-T systems to save the city from total blackout in freezing temperatures.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Chup@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't it just lies? As I understand hypersonic missile don't just fly fast, but also low trajectory and they are able to maneuver during all stages of the flight.

If the Russian missile was able to maneuver at the end, maths would not help, as calculated positions to intercept would be useless with a target that changes course. So Putin simply lied about the abilities of the missile, or - as there were some arrests in the news a few months ago with the developers of the missile - maybe those lied about the abilities of their product.

[–] Dum@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

Well yes and no. It’s a ballistic missile, so it doesn't have a "low trajectory" but a ballistic flight path, which can be calculated from just 3 data points. It can indeed maneuver at all stages, but because it's really fast (that part isn't a lie), it's only able to do very small deviations from it's predetermined flight path (apart from also needing to hit the actual target, so it can't just fly in a completely different direction). The deviations are so small that the patriot can just correct for them in many/most cases. So it's not a lie it can maneuver, it's just not as much as would be necessary to reliably avoid interception, even though patriots fly slower.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

As I see it, there are 2 flaws with your thinking: First, even a wildly manoeuvring missile eventually has to point the nose at the target and dive in. It is vulnerable then at the very least. Second, manoeuvring alone does not render something immune to interception. For example, fighter aircraft manoeuvre like crazy and they get shot down handily.

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The other I watched a video about the brand new Russian tank flagship. So badly made it was hilarious.

Putin is making a cardboard army to lure his people into the Great Russia trope. Unfortunately they take the lie.

[–] runiq@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Mind sharing the link? I'd like something to laugh at on a Monday morning.

[–] canadaduane@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Wenchette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago