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Which game is it and what did you not like about it?

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[–] mackpack@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Munchkin. I guess nowadays hating on Munchkin is no longer unpopular, but when I first played it the game had a rabid cult following. I understand that it might be fun to play with alcohol involved and with everyone just looking to have a good time and to laugh at silly things happening, but as a game where all the players are playing with the intention of winning the game isn't enjoyable to me at all.

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Munchkin is a great game, but it's one you can't play with board game or TTRPG people. You need either alcohol or people who aren't used to/don't worship strict board game rules and who aren't afraid to muck about with stupid shit or pile on other players. The sort of person who's favourite game is CAH or "uh....I dunno chess maybe?', not "here's my six hour dissertation on why Jamestown: now with Wheat is the best"

[–] Narann@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Munchkin was my first modern card game (lets call it like that) and for this particular reason, I loved it. As a young adult (had the version without colors, just draws), I was such impressed, at that time, by how intense feels and interactions you could get by just playing a game. It truly creates a story around.

But depicts all the love I had for it, I realize the biggest selling point for me (active cooperation-but-go-in-hell!) was what tired gamers the most. Some wants to play game, and not discussing/fighting for everything happening on the table.

Now I'm definitely an adult and having play to many games, the intensity of a Munchkin game is just too much for me. Would love to play with young adult/teenagers because I know how fun they can get from it, but it's definitely not a game for… (let's say) Gamers.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

Played so many 3 hour games where everyone just held their stoppers for when someone was going to hit level 10. By the end you're just silently pleading that someone dings so it can be over.

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

There are better sober games and there are better drunk activities than Munchkin.

If you're at a point where you're having fun with Munchkin you'd be having fun without it as well...

[–] dpunked@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I agree entirely, hate Munchkin with a passion

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[–] Narann@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Being a fan of engine/tableau builder, Wingspan really disappointed me. It's not a bad game. It a very nice game, but the flow is average, at most.

Depicts some interesting ideas that push me to buy it with it's first expansion (goal board, mix of engine and tableau building) it's hugely luck based and the fact this game is rated 8+ on BGG, that tends to rate games mostly on advanced mechanisms and long run, is still a mystery to me.

I give it 5 plays with different peoples. Yet, I had no fun at all (I mean, zero… Watching flies around was the funniest part of my last game, sadly)… Then I played 51st State, which is a very good (yet not awesome) engine builder and have instant fun from start to end. The feeling of controlling things.

There are some highly rated games on BGG, and while I like some better than others, the ratings never seems off to me. Like “mmh, OK, I see why peoples like it”. But this offset has never been so huge with Wingspan.

So yes, I have it on my shelf, I watch its wonderful box like a disturbing mirror of my gaming tastes, knowing it's praised by many, but I could almost try to find another table just when someone come up with the idea, while I usually really force myself to play games with different peoples because I know you will make peoples happy.

First time in my 20y of gaming, and it makes me feel so weird.

Thanks for reading me.

[–] factory_funnerer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I wanted to like Wingspan but, like you say, it's maybe something with the flow that just turns me off. Same for Parks. Maybe I'll make do with just ogling the cards (because the art/graphics are gorgeous in both) vice playing with them haha

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Getting into tableau/engine builders games. Any recommendations?

[–] donio@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wingspan is still worth checking out especially since it's so easy to try on BGA. There is a reason it's so popular, it works well for many people. Everdell is another very popular one with great production. Kinda falls into the same camp in that it often shows up on these "popular games that didn't work for me" lists but it's quite good for what it is.

On the smaller side Wild Space can be a good entry point. Small box, inexpensive, very easy to play, fun combos.

Or if you want to jump straight into the deep water and go for the best that's Lorenzo Il Magnifico for me. Deus is another one I like a lot but that has a map component too.

[–] dpunked@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me this is Lost ruins of Arnak. The game is a sort of deckbuilder but it never feels like it. It also left us with the impression that you need to min/max from turn 1 and there is only a limited way to victory. Its on our list of games to resell. Do not understand the appeal

[–] ClonedPuffin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the same for me. Feel like a collection of half-baked attempts at mechanics from too many other games. The five turn limit is to short to do anything interesting with them, and makes it so the winner of the game is basically decided after turn 1. I like the theme and there are lots of games that are technically worse, but it just feels kinda mediocre and dull.

[–] EvaUnit02@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Mage Knight. This game threw me in to an unbridaled rage with how much I loathed it. I couldn't understand why it was rated so highly. So, I went to BGG to see just how so many people could like this awful game.

Turns out everyone plays it cooperatively. Not a soul plays nor recommends the competitive mode; the mode I was playing in.

[–] nezbyte@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Monopoly. It’s only fun if you are winning and you don’t like your opponents.

[–] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's exactly the point of Monopoly: Showing that capitalism leads to monopoly and misery, to those who have and those who have to pay for it.

[–] nezbyte@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Indeed, it’s amazing how prevalent the game is.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Monopoly is a really bad 1-2 hours game but the absolute worst part is that everyone plays with dumb house-rules to make it last an entire afternoon. Really grinds my gears.

I never refuse to play Monopoly, I'll just say I'll gladly play if we play by the rules. The end result is the same, we never play it. I have never met anyone who wanted to play by the rules. Hell, I never found anyone who knew Monopoly had auctions or mortgage.

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[–] pelotron@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never fails to get family members crying.

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[–] erebus@geekdom.social 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@dpunked My gaming group lives by Terraforming Mars. I’ll play it but I just can’t get into it. I strongly prefer Ares Expedition, but they don’t. #firstworldproblems

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I feel like Ares Expedition is a really nice compromise. I love placing tiles on Terraforming Mars, tho. Really miss that.

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[–] SendMeBakedBeans@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

We tried Mysterium and it wasn't really a great experience. It's probably better if you get the hang of it, but we have a lot of other games to try before that point, so que será será

[–] MrKarato@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Probably quite lukewarm at this point, but Gloomhaven. Too much effort to set up and manage, losing often is annoying, losing often with no consequences for losing is even more annoying. It always felt like it would be better as a video game, and guess what? There is one now. It's probably good.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably Scythe. It was fun the first couple times when we were figuring it out, but very quickly every game ends up feeling the same.

[–] Robbydigital@mastodon.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TipRing @dpunked 100% this. I kick-started it and had very high expectations due to the designer, but it really fell flat after a couple plays. I particularly disliked how your faction and board combo really dictated your viable strategy and how some resources just stopped being useful or valuable at all later in the game.

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[–] Hoozzer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Settlers of Catan is one of the worst board games ever made. I will die on this hill.

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[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably Everdell. Just seemed to be very much style over substance. If you were lucky you could get some synergies going but luck is the key word there. The huge deck means there's no guarantee what you need is going to come up in the game at all.

Kind of feels like if you want a nature themed tableau thing Wingspan does it better.

[–] meant2live218@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The few times I've played it (with my admittedly competitive group), we've always gone through the entire deck. If a group of 4 isn't getting through the deck, it means people aren't calling card draw/card selection enough, and may be plopping down suboptimal cards just to use what they have.

I would also recommend Wingspan, but it's not the same style of game. Everdell felt a lot like Agricola, but less punishing and more fair about card availability and variance.

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[–] monkeytennis@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I was kind of mystified by its appeal too, all that tiny text, the pointless tree...

[–] meant2live218@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ticket to Ride unfortunately did nothing for me.

My friends and I had been playing mostly Catan for about 5 years before we tried Ticket to Ride. It just didn't feel very strategic, but maybe that's because it was our first time playing. It felt like the cards you were dealt basically determined whether or not you would win, and "blocking" someone else didn't feel like it was truly worth the effort. Years later, my CS and EE professor would say how it was a fun game because of how it actually resembled some problems in networking, but I just never grasped that level of depth.

[–] dpunked@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like Ticket to Ride, but more to play with people that are not into games. Something easy, just a fun session in the evening with parents or other relatives.

[–] Dwayne@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

That's exactly the group of people where I enjoy playing it quite a lot, too. Ticket to Ride Europe is now also family-owned.

[–] BusterStatus@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Didn't know that some of these were turned into board games.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stone Age. Worker placement and set collection point salad and not much else.

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[–] eendjes@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me it would probably be “7th continent”. It just feels a bit undercooked and the rules are vague in a way that’s really frustrating. People really like it on BGG but I don’t get it.

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[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Axis and Allies. I dunno, maybe I've just lost patience as I get older, but the 2 times I tried playing it with my group we spent so much time going over the rules and setting up the board that we really didn't get it enjoy it much.

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[–] Raged_norm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Börenpark, was just boring.

No real competition for tiles, no real race to the finish.

[–] McWizard@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ark Nova - I just had very bad starting cards and couldn't mitigate it, so I was doomed to be behind the whole game. Seriously with that big number of cards you can just get very unlucky and have no good combo available. It's too much chance in this game, but I might just be more of an Euro game fan...

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[–] SebTorres@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Santorini. I played it with my wife at our LGS a few years ago. The game was over too quickly, and it didn’t feel too rewarding.

[–] float@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Risk. Just rolling the dice and let the highest one win would be an equally well designed game.

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