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[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm genuinely at a loss with climate activism that doesn't sum up to endorsing adventurism at this point. I've seen no proof that the people making hand-over-fist profits broiling our planet will let go of their fixation on crude without. They fundamentally do not care about the will of the people; their money insulates them from that.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take the MST in Brazil, for example. They are fighting back against agricultural methods that are devastating their ecosystems, and with success. While things in the West may seem bad, good things are happening elsewhere.

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

A valid point to raise; a lot of my fixation is on the West because I've lost faith that I'll ever be able to escape it-- so this is a great point to raise up. I'm just not sure if the methods and ideology of the MST has a western analogue that could replicate their thrust, which leads back to square one of 'how the fuck do we rid ourselves of these bituminous leeches in the imperial core?'

[–] Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not within capitalism. Unless we could somehow convince the capitalists that renewable energy was profitable, I doubt there's much we can do.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

They're slowly being convinced, but it's not the entire solution. Nor is "build build build" renewable without any considerations for the so-called externalities (as capital always does) ultimately effective.