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Are there any robot vacuums/mops that respect privacy; that don't map your house and phone home with the information?

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[–] Aspaldiko@feddit.de 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you are not new to selfhosting and buy one of the supported (and actually good) vacuums then this replaces the cloud: Valetudo

[–] agg@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Valetudo is fantastic. Unfortunately the rooting process for some robots is a decent amount of work, but once it’s up and run going it’s very solid.

I’ve been running two robots for two years now with no problems and no internet connections. Full mapping with zones.

[–] wintermute@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My robot is running on Valetudo as well, rooting was quite simple using an UART adapter, best check https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots.html before buying one

[–] digger@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Another bump for Valetudo! I've been running for more than a year and it's great!

[–] freundTech@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

They recently announced that they will publish new exploits at DEF CON next week and recommend owners to not update their firmware if they want to take advantage of that.

So depending on how the exploit works installing Valerie might get a lot simpler. It usually takes quite some time until such exploits are not only fixed, but then also for devices with fixed firmware to hit the shelves.

[–] unfazedbeaver@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

This looks fantastic. Thanks for the link!

[–] cantsurf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh, just don't give it your WiFi password.

They don't have their own cell phone plans or satellite uplinks.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many of them can only be controlled from a smartphone app that requires both the phone and the robot to access the cloud. ☹️

[–] cantsurf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yikes. I hadn't realized. I had a great neato robot that was totally offline. The new version wants to be controlled through your phone. F that.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the apps do provide significant benefits… it’s not just “because data”

[–] cantsurf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just frustrating that companies make these nice and helpful apps, and then they pretty much always try to invade your privacy if you use them.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

oh for sure! that part is totally BS when you’ve bought the product already

[–] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know how you feel about second hand robots, but they are dumb enough to respect your privacy. The old Irobot roombas, They just run off of a internal clock, no connection to the internet, they bump around a bit, then dock themselves when the battery starts to get low. I pick them up at flea markets for 20 bucks, usually need to replace the battery, brushes, but they sell all that. Be weary if they smell like poop.

[–] Aspaldiko@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel that the "dumb" robots are much worse than the lidar robots. Mine cleans very efficiently and also navigates when things move (like chairs). A buddy of mine has a "dumb" robot and has since stopped using it because he has had to rescue it often

[–] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, don't I know it. I always find "Mildred" stuck on this stupid mini step the previous owner made, or stuck under the side table. That being said, this place would get nasty if she wasn't running 3 times a week. But those little robots have limitations.

[–] Aspaldiko@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

True, it's just nice to come home and it's visibly cleaner than when you left.

[–] EpicFailGuy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

@unfazedbeaver

Just use a block list, some of your data is still in the cloud but you filter most of it

[–] thecam@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Is there a robot vacuum that does not have bluetooth, wifi or any other wireless signals, even if it does map your home?