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This mastodon thread illustrates why Discord and similar chat room based apps are actually pretty bad for long term information storage and access. (misskey.bubbletea.dev)

submitted 2 years ago by AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

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[–] hamfandango@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I simply do not understand how a software for VoIP became the de facto choice for forums. It pains me to no end to try and find info on endless rolling chat format. It is, quite literally, the digital equivalent of being in a party where everyone just shout what they want to say and hope that the people on the other end can filter all the other hundred conversations and actually respond to it.

This is only worsened when you want to follow a project, a game for instance, and the devs only use that shitty platform. Now you are deprived on any news, important bugs and troubleshooting in general.

I've never used a forum when they were in their prime. But boy, do I wish they were more prevalent.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'd take an old school phpBB forum over Discord any day.

Hey, maybe Lemmy could start to slowly replace it as a forum software? Imagine open source projects having their own Lemmy instances just for discussing development instead of relying on things like Discord! Lemmy is way more powerful discussion platform and it's actually designed specifically for that use case!

[–] hamfandango@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Absolutely. We can still have matrix instances for chatting. There is nothing inherently bad about an inpermanent format, it has its place. However as the need of having anything last for more than a week, with the possibility of being occasionaly accessed years from now, a lemmy, forum-like, format is a must.

In my mind information storing needs two major things set straight from the get go: organization and sorting of information, and searchability. Discord, to my experience, barely has either.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

MyBBis a good choice, I think, FOSS, selfhosted and nice UI

[–] ziproot@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

It's especially bad when open source projects use a proprietary service like Discord.

[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Discord in general feels super noisy too with people typing more frequently than they would in a forum. As soon as a channel has more than five people it becomes an incomprehensible mess.

[–] mekhos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I tried it a few times and what you describe is how I found it. I left thinking F-that and wondering how on earth that is such a go-to application for people, other than maybe gaming.

[–] sgtnasty@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

This right here, I miss so much important info, the only reason I am on discord.

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Discord allows moderators to require phone numbers. ugh.

[–] miguel@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Discord: Slack for streamers/gamers/*tubers/influencers/etc.

Uncomfortable to use. A VoIP software (private) turned into a forum app? with tons of toxic communities (nested chats) everywhere.

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

It's proprietary and closed source too!

[–] yxzi@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

To be fair, it would make sense that Lemmyheads have a strong bias against fast & sloppy comments, but it seems like people are generally so lazy they don't take their time to write well thought out sentences all the time.

I feel like on Discord it's more about "shouting out" something as opposed to actual content. In fact, the actual content gets overflooded with useless spam.

Balancing out the freedom of dank shout-outs VS. the possibility of a serious discussion is a challenge that's yet to be solved

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For a lighthearted, hang out, or meme community, I agree with you. But if we're talking about driving the development of a serious project, which is where the majority of grievances for Discord's format comes in, my personal take is "your opinions or suggestions better be well thought out and articulated!"