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[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Could a Communist Nation be considered viable if such a hostile force can take it down? Does it all come down to survival of the fittest (in the best use of the term)?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 44 minutes ago

Yes and no. The AES ststes of today habe learned from what happened to the USSR and other former Socialist countries snd have adapted, such as China's Socialist Market Economy an stance towards international investment, not closing off but not ceding power.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 0 points 43 minutes ago (2 children)

can communism survive in a single country was always a big question.

I think the original idea was to try a world revolution but that didn't work out.

Us is the main holdout. Russia is basically socialist, EU is basically socialist. China is communist.

Us is the only serious holdout

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 38 minutes ago

Russia is Capitalist, the EU is Capitalist, the US is Capitalist, and China is Socialist. Communism must be global, but Socialism is the process of building towards that through publicly owning large firms and key industries. Communism exists as an ideology for now, and hasn't been achieved yet.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 1 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

China is a cocktail of socialism, capitalism, nationalism... claiming it's only one ~ism is probably oversimplifying, but communism is probably a bit far stretch.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

China has a Socialist Market Economy, it isn't so much a cocktail as it is Marxism-Leninism applied to China's current conditions.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 1 points 4 minutes ago

China has a Socialist Market Economy, it isn’t so much a cocktail as it is Marxism-Leninism applied to China’s current conditions.

This sentence is in Chinese constitution and text book for every first grade student. Repeating it doesn't help any meaningful conversation, unless you are a 7 years old trying to pass exam and get to second grade...

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago

Luckily the US is dismantling the CIA so that’s good news for communism!!!

[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 16 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

When people ask me what communist country was successful I usually say all of them until cia decided to go there and spread freedom 🇺🇸🦅

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well... There was this thing called Soviet Union. They decided to try to speed up the transition to communism by using repression and violence. And ended up being a totalitarian state, a direct opposite of what a communist state is supposed to be like.

Of course you can argue that Soviet Union was not communist, it was just a state that had chosen to call itself communist for propaganda reasons... But still, Soviet Union is an example of a communist country that was unsuccessful as a communist project already by itself. Then came outsiders and helped make it even worse, but bad doesn't become good by some people wanting it to be even worse. Burma is another example. I'd say they hacked away their own leg before anyone else, such as CIA, had time to interfere in their business.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

The USSR didn't "do repression and violence to speed up Communism," they had a successful revolution and established Socialism. By all accounts it was quite successful overall, but we can learn from where they erred and adapt for the future.

The only ones who believe the Soviet Union wasn't Socialist are generally Western Trots or liberals/Anarchists who already don't want the form of society Marxists want, which is a government that publicly owns its large and key industries and gradually folds in the new firms that grow to that level until the entire economy is publicly owned.

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