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When is Harris' anti-oligarchy rally? Obama's? LOL, Pelosi's? Why the fuck does this one guy who should be retiring on a beach somewhere have to keep dragging the entire Democratic party? I love Bernie, but it's beyond pathetic that after all these years it's still his job.
Because none of those other people want to. The only reason they even allow Bernie to do as much as he does is to placate progressive liberals, if they didn't folks might start figuring out that reform doesn't work.
In all fairness, Harris’s political ambitions are over. She lost to Trump, she should probably just stay out of politics now.
She's saying she might run for Cali governor...
[screaming]
They're protecting their capital.
Never. They are the oligarchy.
Warren, MICHIGAN. I would like to encourage anyone who posts local news to put clarifying geographical data in the title ... I've spent so many minutes of my life clicking thru to some local TV station's story and looking ... looking ... looking for any sort of clue where the hell they are.
Thank you!! I didn't have to go through the spelunking exercise because of your comment!!
It's interesting to watch this, and while Bernie is slightly left to my values, how come this octogenarian gets it and the rest of the party doesn't? I'm just amazed that some democrats interpret this as "let's align with MAGA" a little more, instead of calling those "right wing radicalists". The future of Dems is to be the anti-oligarchy party. While I understand how risky this may be as unlimited dark money pouring in can tilt things, but people still have the power if they unite.
If Bernie fucking Sanders is too far left for you then you're definitely part of the problem
Agreed, Sanders only has the working class at heart throughout his career. Is he perfect? Of course not. If you are working class and you think Bernie is bad…. You really need to reconsider who you are and where you stand.
nobody called Bernie bad here...
Understood. I was just making a statement.
While too far left could mean this, the op just said "slightly left". Of course, if what you meant is that Bernie Sanders is barely left enough, that anyone to the right of him is the problem, then nvm.
The second one
No fucking way anti-oligarchy is the future of the party. The Dems are going to run the same tired playbook of courting the center and hoping the Republicans shit the bed. They are already saying this loudly and often.
No fucking way anti-oligarchy is the future of the party.
We'll see. It would be quite tragicomical after they just got punished for moving towards the center like the second humiliating time around. At least Bernie's showing the path.
I mean I'm pretty sure a bit ago I saw something that leaked from a meeting of Dems about strategy going forward where they were talking about trying to shift more to the right by presenting themselves as more patriotic and pushing for more focus on larger donors rather than lots of small donors which is basically just doubling down on what they just tried. I still have some hope that maybe people get so fed up a Bernie like candidate can win despite major push back from donors and the establishment of the party and shape the party to be more progressive rather than allowing the party apparatus and donors to shape them to be less progressive but if that did happen it would be a bigger upset then what happened with Trump winning and shaping the Republican party into his personal Maga party.
It's interesting to watch this, and while Bernie is slightly left to my values, how come this octogenarian gets it and the rest of the party doesn't?
Which party? The Democrats? He's not part of them since they crushed him and his followers in 2016, preferring to back H.Clinton to a stunning loss against Trump.
They don't get it because they are also a party more interested in supporting oligarchs than the working person. They still think that Trump beat them through disinformation, when it was really that they lost because their track record since Carter has been to back big business over the needs of the common people. Clinton and Obama should have been ripping up Regan's / Bush's legacy, but they just tweaked it. All Trump did was speak to that, even though he had no intention of doing anything about it.
How in the fuck is Bernie too far left for you? America is way too far fucking right wing, that's insane
The reason is apparent in history. Party leadership lived through Nixon and Reagan's punishing wins over a liberal leaning Democratic party. Labor support went lukewarm, and their funding stream dwindled. The left absolutely utterly to fill the gap. Clinton ran and won as a centrist, and just as important his cohort had a plan to fund the party. The ranks of party leadership were filled with this cohort, and the left hasn't done the work to take back party control.
I quite like Sanders, but his vision of a groundswell of public support fails to account for the importance of campaign spending in election outcomes. It's not enough for a few charismatic candidates to win, a party needs to win to effect change, particularly in a federal system. That reality, in my opinion, is why the left is still shut out of party control.
All this too say, the party should stand as an anti-oligarchy party, but the party needs a cohesive vision of what what that means.
One third of Americans voted for Donald Trump. One third of Americans did not vote.
Two thirds of Americans a) think that Kamala Harris, forget Bernie Sanders, was too conservative, or b) do not give a fuck.
The idea that there is this massive left wing sentiment that will bubble to the surface if the Democrats annouce their Five Year Plan simply isn't something born out by the numbers.
affordable education and universal healthcare would be popular drawing forces.
10,000 showed up to fight oligarchy—guess billionaires finally pushed us into revolution mode.
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This reminds me of something I read from a British left-wing journalist the other day (source). She suggested that perhaps the left should focus less on identity politics, and more on wealth and class:
By making a virtue of marginalisation, breaking ourselves down into ever smaller and mutually hostile groupings, we make it impossible to build a mass movement capable of taking on extreme concentrations of wealth and power
Based Shawn fein
This is the way.