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    [–] KeraKali@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago (9 children)

    I'm gonna need some names because I only recognize like, two.

    [–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 78 points 6 days ago (7 children)

    Going from lawful to chaotic, good to evil, we have:

    • Gecko (Firefox, Seamonkey, and derivatives)
    • Servo
    • Libweb (Ladybird)
    • Links2 (as well as ELinks and other forks)
    • WebKit (used in a lot of stuff, namely Safari and GNOME Web)
    • Goanna (Pale Moon and Basilisk)
    • QtWebEngine (Konqueror, Falkon, and qutebrowser)
    • Blink (Chromium, Brave, and derivatives)
    • Trident (Internet Explorer, old versions of Maxthon, old versions of Avant, and any homemade browser created with Visual Studio).
    [–] cerement@slrpnk.net 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    (until they get a new lead dev, Ladybird is definitely not any type of β€œGood”)

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    100%, this is either uninformed or some apologia

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    What's going on? I've seen this new browser engine referenced recently a decent bit but I have no info beyond 'it's new and exists'.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 33 points 6 days ago (24 children)

    the lead dev is a freeze peach absolutist. he's said some ignorant shit about trans people and when people said "hey, let's adjust this language" he was like "let's not get political"

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

    That's unfortunate :(

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    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (7 children)

    Why is QtWebEngine considered evil?

    [–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    It's effectively Chromium.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 6 days ago

    It’s the other way around. KHTML begat WebKit and Blink, then we got QtWeb.

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    [–] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 6 days ago (18 children)

    chaotic good? ladybird? the browser by devs that refuse to use your pronouns?

    https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (22 children)

    People are losing their shit, calling for boycotts, and throwing around accusations of transphobia over comments in the source code and a single line of documentation? Seriously? And brigading the developer three years after the factβ€½ I was ready to write off Ladybird, but damn, this was taken way out of proportion.

    I'm all in for equal treatment, but people need to get a perspective. Such an extreme reaction will ultimately hurt the cause they're trying to advocate for. Getting bent out of shape and publicly brigading something for every perceived slight, every time someone's feelings are hurt, or can't get their way, will get them -- and the demographic or movement they represent -- labelled as undesirable.

    [–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    I've checked out the PR, and it does look bad. But I'd like to see a justification. The comment seems blatantly transphobic/misogynistic. Seems like you're saying that my understanding is extreme. How could yours be refuted?

    Brigading was clearly not justified, but as per my apparently extreme opinions, so isn't the original reply?

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    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

    Oh what the fuck, dev came off like a fucking ass to a minor suggestion.

    [–] Kr4u7@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Old news - fix is already in production Proof

    Please check your sources :)

    [–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    The fact that someone else fixed the issue doesn't really excuse the absolutely unacceptable original response to a very reasonable request.

    I'm much more interested in seeing an apology, or any sort of indication that the dev understands how disrespectful they were.

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

    I'm not sure I have a lot of faith in Servo but we are in need of anything better than Gecko. Ladybird is the new one on the block and we will see if it goes anywhere. I like that Ladybird it's own web browser.

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    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

    khtml deserves to be in the gift to humanity category

    [–] milliams@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Where's KHTML? The O.G. GOAT.

    [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 10 points 6 days ago

    Well that's WebKit now

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

    What the fuck? Safari is neutral???

    [–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    That is Webkit, not Safari. Lots of things other than Safari use it.

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    [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (23 children)

    Ladybird is certainly interesting to watch, it's improving quite quickly.

    I know people on here hate it because of one (admittedly not at all nice) gender issue in the codes comments but like... seriously?

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