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[–] saucyloggins@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s because the government has had tech way beyond even what we have today. They just peace-meal it out to us bro. They’ve been coordinating mass propaganda against us 1984 style since like. Before 1984.

Also. The government is so incompetent they can’t provide health care better than private insurance companies. Obviously.

[–] Alvinum@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They won't provide or create the framework for proper health care in the US because private health care is a very effective extortion scheme that can pay for the laws they want.

And the pharma companies like it like that.

"Oh, you like living? Too bad you live in the US, where we will charge you 10x what everyone else in the world pays for the insulin you need to survive. Pay up or die.

https://fortune.com/2023/01/13/insulin-us-costs-7-times-canada-california-suing-makers-scheming-illegally-increase-price/amp/

There is a reason the US has the most expensive health care system in the world, while the health care system quality using objective criteria,l is usually around rank 40-60, below practically all western countries, below cuba and comparable to Armenia or Morocco.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1290168/health-index-of-countries-worldwide-by-health-index-score/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000

The US is also basically the only industrialized country where medical bankruptcy is a thing.

[–] CodingSquirrel@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

You're not wrong, but I think the above poster was sarcastically pointing out that people who believe that the government is highly coordinated and competent don't trust the government to run healthcare because it's too uncoordinated and incompetent. Both incredibly strong and also laughably weak.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds reasonable... you've got my vote

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The moon landing was staged, but Stanley Kubrick demanded to shoot on location."

[–] feck_it@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Gee , think about all the logistics that goes into this obvious stage ~on the location~

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get to talk about Beast Wars enough these days.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beast Wars used to be great.

It still is, but it used to be too.

[–] quicksand@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it was staged or something but if I look at 2001: A Space Odyssey, I really am fascinated by the good visual effects, so the raw filming could probably have been done, but most Nasa documents of that time are online and there is no possiblity everything would have been fake.

[–] Thassar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, the technology to fake the moon landing straight up didn't exist in the 60s. There's a really good video on youtube that goes over it but I can't seem to find it right now. But basically, even though there were some nice techniques to make special effects for movies, they wouldn't have worked for faking an actual moon landing.

[–] TheMonkeyLord@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For some reason, to me at least, there is a good amount of irony in this. Almost like because the technology and techniques to replicate a convincing moon landing weren't around they just went there instead lol

[–] Thassar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's why I love that fact too. Sending a rocket into space and landing on a tiny ball of rock was literally easier than pretending to do it.

[–] Fleshtrap@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Beast Wars was so dope.

[–] Chadsalot@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah but that's just the CGI that's available to the public. Everyone knows the governments been using holograms since the 60s. Wake up.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why holograms in the '60s? Didn't you hear about the experimental hallucinogen laced AC units?

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No but are they still accepting applications for that one or...?

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, you just gotta ask the folks in the know, "'Token' AC?" and they'll hook you up /s

[–] ZAX2717@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean the CGI was awesome at the time, I was also 7 so take that with a grain of salt.

[–] Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was around the same age. It was high tech!

[–] Enasni@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/apollo-landing-footage-would-have-been-impossible-to-fake-a-film-expert-explains-why

Unironically, this is actually my favorite take on the moon landing conspiracy. The technology to fake the footage and photos we got simply didn't exist at the time.

[–] some_guy@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

My take is that they hired Kubrick to make the footage but he insisted on shooting it on-location.

[–] gaybear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fun fact, there's an official render of dinobot (beastwars character) where he has a dick

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gaybear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"dirk dinobot"

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I know it may not seem like it, but this gorilla is computer generated.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You one of those crazy people who believes in the moon‽

[–] crowbar@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Wow a wild interrobang appeared!

[–] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow that intro brings back memories.

Kind of surprised it only went 3 seasons/55 episodes, seemed popular at the time.

https://yewtu.be/playlist?list=PL_hfDtD68l8X7JjIAf1pusxoaX2JN1iAg

[–] z500@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There were also two seasons of Beast Machines, but it wasn't quite the same.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not get it. Why 1996? What’s relationship of that date with the moon landings?

[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If in 1996 cgi was shit in the 60s it would never be better than this. In reality it didn’t even exist.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, Apollo 13 the movie literally came out the year prior so we had the ability to depict the moon landing with CGI in the 90s.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Most of that movie was done with practical effects and miniatures. The CGI was relatively minimal since it was so weak back then.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dangdoggo@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but the 3D effects in Jurassic Park were made by two passionate developers who basically invented rigging to make those sequences and went totally over budget and did it without the lighting tech we have today. Which is to say, they hand crafted each UV. That technique would never be used today but the results speak for themselves

[–] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

but maybe Neil Armstrong was also very dedicated?

[–] Tetra@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Well, that's just prime...