FYI, it looks like this is the Montana state House, not the US House of Representatives
this post was submitted on 17 Feb 2025
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Thery are using the states as a testing ground for less popular and less justifiable policies to judge the reactions. This has nothing to do with vaccines being unsafe and everything to do with keeping the population scared and sick.
Vaccination rates are already quite low in Montana (30% got covid boosters) , and it's hard to know just how many infections there have been because medical care is not very accessible in most of the state. The nyt reported one of every 289 Montana residents had died of covid by 2023.
should check who owns hospitals... sick people love going there
These people are dumb as fuck and don't even slightly understand what they are legislating. They are just politicizing scientific developments, drawing arbitrary lines, and attacking things on "the other side". mRNA vaccines could be a game changer for creating vaccines with fewer risks, but these stupid assholes can't be bothered to even learn how they work, why they are better, or they do "learn" but they listen to crackpot conspiracy theorists like RFK Jr. who lie about what it does or the dangers associated. This anti-intellectual bullshit has got to stop.
The stupid, it burns
Montana State legislature but damn.
Any drug that might be used for abortions, a broad class of vaccinations…..
I mean this is how it starts. This is how eventually they tell you what you can and can’t do with your own body.
Before you know it they’ll come after SSRIs, vaccines that have “lead”, any vaccine that might cause injury, elective surgeries that deal with reproduction, and so on.
Because when they know they can get away with this, it makes them bolder in their schemes.
I find it unsurprising but fascinating that the group routinely known for yelling slippery slope is nowhere to be found. It’s like they didn’t give an actual shit to begin with.
Small govt! RNA small.
Government small enough to fit inside a needle.
Americans toss cancer cure tech out window because they love Trump and had to wear a mask.
Vaccine trip to other states will be good business.
Letting pandemic killing the poorer and the weaker part of population is essentially building an open air gas chamber.
Flipping through the first few chapters of "The Masque of the Red Death" and all I can think about is how Prince Prospero can fuck around forever and will never ever find out.
Jesus fucking christ. Soon we're going to be fleeing to other countries as climate and healthcare refugees.
If this goes through (I hope it doesn't, but don't know enough about Montana to say), folks should be aware that there's a third FDA-approved covid vaccine that doesn't use the mRNA technology. It's a more traditional protein subunit vaccine and it's called NovaVax. It's slightly less effective than the mRNA vaccines, but there's data showing that the resistance lasts a bit longer.
That Carl Sagan quote about the service economy is fucking slapping right now.
Here's the quote, for those like me who had never heard of it:
"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...
The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance."
–Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
Thank you!
Let's just ban science. I mean had science ever done anything? /s
Nah, it is just a money sink that accomplishes absolutely nothing, nothing at all. I mean, the way I am communicating with you now makes no sense, how am I doing this? Telepathy?
Morons.
The Republicans already aren't taking covid vaccines. They want to ban it for other folks because they don't like that there side is dying and getting sick in higher numbers.
I mean, there's an alternative route, but admitting you were wrong is crime number one in the Republican mind.
What's wrong with mRNA vaccines, politically or medically?
Politically: it‘s evil because it’s new and was first used for the covid vaccine.
Remember when they said it was about their freedom to choose? When they said they're problem was that its not right to force it onto people? Obviously lies and bullshit then, but what's the argument here?
Like seriously, what's the argument against letting people choose? Isn't that what you wanted? Because when there is tons of evidence that vaccines are good and safe, you can still choose to not have them. So, hypothetically, if that flipped and they were able to get some "evidence" vaccines are bad and dangerous, wouldn't it still be your right to choose? Just like it was their right to choose, even when it shouldn't have been.
It goes without saying, obviously hypocrisy, but holy shit. And the unfortunate thing is that it is much easier to prevent vaccines than it is to supply them.