I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

I use Ubuntu btw

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

GET BACK IN YOUR HOVEL RICHARD

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

I hurd you btw.

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Beat me to it 😂

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A quotation circulates on the Internet, attributed to me, but it wasn't written by me.

The main error is that Linux is not strictly speaking part of the GNU system—whose kernel is GNU Hurd. The version with Linux, we call “GNU/Linux.” It is OK to call it “GNU” when you want to be really short, but it is better to call it “GNU/Linux” so as to give Torvalds some credit.

We don't use the term “corelibs,” and I am not sure what that would mean, but GNU is much more than the specific packages we developed for it. I set out in 1983 to develop an operating system, calling it GNU, and that job required developing whichever important packages we could not find elsewhere.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago

Is it the year of the HURD desktop?!

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's nothing to apologize for

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Linux didn't work on my random hardware!

Linux doesn't have proprietary program X!

Linux didn't work with my online game that forces you to install spyware on your computer!

Linux doesn't let you know all the latest movies, products, and deals!

Linux didn't make me agree to an EULA!

Something like that I guess.

[–] DeaDvey@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Linux doesn’t let you know all the latest movies, products, and deals!

What does this mean? Genuinely Curious.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

I guess ads

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

When you install Windows 11 it suggests OneDrive, Office 365, and Gamepass. After it is installed it will push news articles and advertisements in your start bar. If you use Edge it will also land on a default web page used to advertise products, services, and media.

I think there are some distros of Linux like Ubuntu that does some of these things, but nowhere near what Windows does now.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A lot of modern proprietary interfaces have started spamming people with ads about "the latest stuff" in the notification menu, the app launcher menu, and a few other places.

[–] DeaDvey@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That sounds like quite a weird reason to prefer Windows, you can just follow an RSS feed with the "latest stuff" and not have it forced down your throat.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think people prefer it, I think they're culture shocked when the algorithms stop telling them what to think. It's an uncanny feeling at first and can be uncomfortable for some.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Linux doesn't work with my (deprecated) Windows Mixed Reality headset, it's not VR ready!

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[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago

I'll die before I apologize for linux

[–] Xenobiotic@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

I love that you called them apologists 😂

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

As a Marxist Linux user, I think I found my place lmao

[–] glockenspiel@programming.dev 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

TIL most people don't know that "apologists" means apologetics which does NOT mean "apologize." It means to defend something.

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Seems to be about memes and porn where I'm sitting.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The 100+ porn communities I've blocked agree with you

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can just turn nsfw off in your profile, no?

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Theres a difference between nsfw memes and joke/shitpost content, and straight up porn though. Thats why i just have different accounts for different purposes, and on my main block porn as it comes up.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

You could just make an account on an instance that defederates from porn to begin with, though

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[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

I must be out of the loop. Are Linux apologists and tankies at cross purposes for some reason?

[–] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No but we (Linologists) would defeat them if we were

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay fair enough, but if that's the case, do you know what this meme is about?

[–] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Theres a joke some instances are filled with tankies and it can be annoying for non tankies, when in reality theres actually an even bigger amount of linux apologists who are even more obsessed about their passion/hobby than tankies and talk about it more than they do, which is likely to be more annoying for non linux users. At least thats my takeaway

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[–] destiper@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

What if I’m both

[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

*Apostels

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

cope and seethe, redditor

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But there are three figures at the bottom. The other two are Trekkies and Furries maybe?

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

All 3 have an IT job

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

hell yeah!

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

FOSS and Privacy apologists , but fervent online gamers in proprietary Games.

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[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So this giant comes from a place where giant trees grow.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I use ubuntu by the way 🤓

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