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    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I don't think I understand the joke here

    [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Animal Farm is a story by George Orwell about the animals of the farm being led by pigs in overthrowing the farmer. The joke seems to be that Orwell both saw and described a literal farm uprising, and that he wrote this book instead because the animals hadn't risen up

    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I know about animal farm, but I don't get how systemd fits in here

    [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I'm choosing to ignore that part /s

    [–] Maven@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

    There was a very similar meme where the farmer just described the animals and the pig said a thing about systemd. This is a reverse of that... It's a meta meme basically that only works if you know the other half.

    [–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

    I don't think it actually makes sense.

    [–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    This post smells like burnt toast

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

    There comment history smells like old Linux admin.

    They recommend Sea monkey and Palemoon.

    [–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

    So SystemD is taking over all functions like the Pigs took over the farm. Some animals protested and were pushed down or killed when they spoke out. Why Orwell is doing the pushing down.... The media?

    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

    It's just jan 4 and it seems the systemd jokes have already run out for this year. I for one haven't seen all those "systemd bad" posts/comments/blogs/whatever. Instead there are tons, TONS of "gnome bad", "kde bloated", "wayland bad/xorg good" posts/comments/blogs/whatever, but god forbid if someone says something about systemd.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Criticisms of systemd say it does too much, so maybe every basic animal on the farm is systemd? Orwell is complaining about how the pig is overly complicated for a farm animal.

    If I really break it down, I guess the author is saying that while it could be cool to have talking pigs, they have no place in a production farm. The average Linux admin doesn't want tools that can do everything, they just need the thing done??

    IDK, feels overly heavy for the delivery.

    [–] baggins@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Is Orwell the systemd devs?

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I suppose Orwell is supposed to be the average user?

    [–] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Orwell, the user, is a supervisord pleb that already understands the limitations of sysinit but their inability to read some man pages results in them writing a long-ass book instead.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I have written long-ass reports to try explaining shit, only to find myself understanding the manual. I think it's part of learning.

    [–] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I was referencing the lengthy screeds against systemd that appear on the internet - those do not strike me as being productive for learning systemd - they appear to me to be justifications against trying to learn the thing. Is this the style of writing that has helped you or were you unaware of what I was referencing?

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    My apologies, I took time to try explaining something better to people than the man pages and ending up better appreciating them.

    [–] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

    I was referencing articles doing the opposite of what you've done, then.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Orwell is a protest distro user and/or developer.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Was the farmer also systemd?

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Farmer is systemd/kerneld*

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

    It all seems so complicated. And they wonder why more people don't switch to farming... rolls eyes...

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

    Whatever floats your boat