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Plebbit is a peer-to-peer Reddit alternative that allows you to self host and own your own community (lemmy.world)
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Plebbit is a selfhosted, opensource, nonprofit social media protocol, this project was created due to wanting to give control of communication and data back to the people.

Plebbit only hosts text. Images from google and other sites can be linked/embedded in posts. This fixes the issue of hosting any nefarious content.

it has no central server, database, HTTP endpoint or DNS - it is pure peer to peer. Unlike federated instances, which are regular websites that can get deplatformed at any time,

ENS domain are used to name communities.

Plebbit currently offers different UIs. Old reddit and new reddit, 4chan, and have a Blog. Plebbit intend to have an app, internet archive, wiki and twitter and Lemmy. Choice is important. The backend/communities are shared across clients.

The code is fully open source on

https://github.com/plebbit

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

So in what way is that better than Lemmy?

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 14 points 3 days ago

I think it's the same in most aspects, just less developed. However, it looks like the devs lie about the benefits and use a less secure alternative to dns.

It's garbage with a funny name

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

...i remember going to our computer lab in the early nineties and seeing a flyer about this new protocol called the world wide web, thinking to myself in what way is that better than gopher?..

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Greetings, fellow geezer! And yes, I've been there too. My first foray on the web was with Lynx, a text based browser. Left me pretty underwhelmed. But once I actually tried Mosaic, I was instantly converted.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (5 children)

From reading the whitepaper, you basically replace instance admins with community admins, and your P2P peers will cache some of the content so you don't hit the community admin all the time. Benefits:

  • lower hosting costs - you only need to pay for storage for your community, plus some transfer as comments/posts get updated on your "instance"
  • risk is limited to whatever communities someone is hosting, not an entire instance
  • user accounts aren't centralized, so if a community goes down, you still have your user account
  • some protection against doxxing IP addresses, whereas w/ Lemmy you need to trust your instance admins

Other differences:

  • moderation is selected by the community admin, there are no instance admins
  • trust mechanisms (captcha and whatnot) is managed at the community level, since there is no instance level

Potential downsides:

  • no ActivityPub, so it won't interact w/ the fediverse whatsoever
  • affiliated w/ their own crypto token, and has ties to Ethereum NFTs and whatnot
  • lots of different interfaces (4chan clone, Reddit clone, etc), which could cause distraction for devs
  • uses public-key addressing instead of content addressing, so it could be slow (they propose a mitigation)

I think it's a step in the right direction in some areas, but ultimately there's just a bit too much association w/ cryptocurrencies for it to really be a long-lasting service. We'll see though, maybe my fears are unwarranted.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Does it need to be better? Can people just share things they find interesting or that they made?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

No matter what choice you make, Lemmy or Plebbit or something else, it's clear that decentralized/federated services are the real future. The return of the torrent swarms but forum swarms instead.

At some point something clicked with everyone, and they realized "the cloud" is someone else's computer, someone else's property. We all collectively realized you never feel truly free when you're on someone else's property, you're always playing by their rules. At least with decentralization the levels of control are distributed so you have less of one person wresting control from anyone else.

It's a bit like growing your own garden. You do it because you know what you're putting into your garden and getting out of it. If you choose to use pesticides, that's your choice, and no one else's. When you choose how to run your own self-hosted services, it becomes your choice what comes and goes from your network.

I'm glad to be part of the self-hosting future here.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately for the fediverse, most regular users want to use their twitters and facebooks and instagrams and whatnot. I don’t see regular users switching over. And if they did, you know the big guys would come up with something to compete.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago

Sometimes the cloud is your own computer

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago (4 children)

From the whitepaper it seems like you cannot comment at all? Or each comment is a post also, so you need a server, you need to host it to be able to reply? I don't see a mention how an upvote/downvote system could work.

How this is even similar to reddit? From what I could find it's much like a topic based microblogging, and it's a very one way communication. As it's similar to IPFS and torrent, which are also very one way communication. Seems like an interesting idea, but I don't see why it was compared to reddit.

Personal opinion, IPFS clones are reinvented about every year, and because they sound very good on paper, but noone could figure out a legit usecase - maybe except piracy - they fail after a while. Maybe if we would become an actual InterPlanetary species with colonies on Mars they could be useful, but until I don't really see a point trying it again and again and again...

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I like the concept, and truly hope it takes off, but holy fuck is it slow to load content on any of the first 2 web clients off the main website, plebbones took forever just to load the interface so I left.

As of right now, if it's taking 2-3 minutes just to load the content of the tiny user base, I don't see how it'll be "infinitely scalable"

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