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Unfortunately what seems to be the cached version of lemmy.fmhy.ml is now slowly disappearing from Cloudflare. Those 2 comments have now been lost as well along with most of the content.

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[–] idkman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What Is Dead May Never Die

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's kinda like looking at some weird bizarro version of yourself finding your old handle.

If it's also a zombie I'm more creeped out.

[–] idkman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

George can have it back when he finishes winds of winter.

(and I recind this if the postumous publishing conspiracy is real, ain't wishing for no man's death)

[–] JasDawg@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.

[–] cafecorse@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What is dead may never die

[–] late_night@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago
[–] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully it comes back, it was my personal favorite instance out of the options available and the one I mainly used.

[–] Sho@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Same here, I really miss it. I'm patiently waiting for its return too.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, did it die completely? I knew they lost the domain, but did they not change to anywhere else?

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems like they're working on it: https://very.bignutty.xyz/@FMHY

(If you can't open the website, try disabling your adblocker. very.bignutty.xyz might be blocked by some adblockers)

very.bignutty.xyz is being blocked by AdGuard DNS filter, AdGuard Base filter and EasyList

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I do use AdGuard on my phone, but it worked for me. Good to know they‘ll be back ty.

[–] some_guy@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

any chance you have an invite?

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I am not on that instance either.

[–] taskylizard@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, it's my personal instance so I only allow invites to people I know, you can signup on firefish.social or any other mastodon instance!

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From what I can gather losing the domain means losing the instance. Obviously that sucks but if I was designing Lemmy I wouldn't think of "what if the Malian government suddenly decides not?".

The reason they haven't yet come back to another instance is they're trying to work out how to migrate and keep the instance while not breaking anything.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is more like activitypub problem. You can't really change domain in activitypub. Even in mastodon, you can only add another alias domain. Losing your original domain is catastrophic. I'm actually interested whether the activitypub devs are finally going to address this. I'm also interested to see what kind of hack FMHY use in order to save their instance.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a (permanent) solution, just a very (very, very,...) stupid idea, that I am not even sure would work.
What happened? They don't own the domains anymore, the DNS records were removed so those domains don't resolve to anything. But maybe they could be locally resolved by each instance. I added these entries to my /etc/hosts file when the DNS records were deleted:

104.21.81.71        lemmy.fmhy.ml
#172.67.140.145      lemmy.fmhy.ml
#188.114.97.3        www.fmhy.ml
188.114.96.3        www.fmhy.ml

This allowed me access to FMHY (while it was still up).

Even if this worked, why would it be stupid? Well it would have to be manually set by each instance. And those IP addresses may change from time to time, so it would have to be manually updated again, by every instance.

A thanks for the IP addresses to dnshistory.org (fmhy.ml) and whoever wrote this comment: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1231585 (lemmy.fmhy.ml)

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This doesn't solve the main problem thought, in which the instance can no longer federate with other instance via activitypub.

They might have to implement a "domain change" thing like username change. It might be huge work

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It’s not lemmy as a whole is it? I thought the main url is lemmy.org. It’s only a couple of instances that used .ml.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's join-lemmy.org, but that's just a list of instances.

There's no "main URL" to a decentralized space. There's only the URLs of participating websites.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you. It’s been over a month and still haven’t quite got my head round the fediverse!

[–] hstde@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can think of it like group chats. Each and every chat is an instance. And to be federated just means that two chats have agreed, that there is one person who copies the text from one chat to the other. In principle this, but much more organized with communities (sub groups) and subscriptions and the like.

Now in reality this is much more complicated, because people want to be identifiable across instances, which is why you can't have just one person in the chat posting Just the text, they need to mention who it was that texted that.

Losing the domain was like the person who was in both chats disappearing and you can't register with their name, but someone else doing what they did, would mean that everyone would need to update their filters, because "I said the first time, that I don't care about your weekend, Carl!"

So they try to solve that.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some bridged chats in telegram might be better example. They use bots to bridge messages between discord, matrix, telegram etc.(eg. t.me/STKInternational (supertuxkart game community lol))

[–] hstde@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I might be too old for this, but good to know.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

lemmy.org is for sale for 6,666.00EUR

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

It’s just instances using the country TLD of Mali .ml and afaik only one instance lost their .ml domain?

[–] GiantBasil@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

RIP in peace FMHY instance

[–] Aram1s@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's always best to to say in peace twice to express how important it is.

[–] ChillDiamondGuy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How profound

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does this have to do with Piracy?

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago

FMHY was piracy-oriented instance, so I thought maybe it would fit here. And maybe I thought wrong.

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