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As a thinking experiment, let us consider that on the 1st of January of 2025 it is announced that an advance making possible growing any kind of animal tissue in laboratory conditions as been achieved and that it is possible to scale it in order to achieve industrial grade production level.

There is no limit on which animal tissues can be grown, so, any species is achieveable, only being needed a small cell sample from an animal to start production, and the cultivated tissues are safe for consumption.

There won't be any perceiveable price change to the end consummer, as the growing is a complex and labour intensive process, requiring specialized equipments and personnel.

Would you change to this new diet option?

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Definitely. I see no downsides.

I don't eat very much meat as it is. But if I could drastically reduce the suffering inflicted when I do I would not hesitate.

[–] leonardodede3@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Only if the culture medium for the meat cells is not made of living animals.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

protein isn't the issue, it's all the bio-available vitamins and healthy fats that have already been converted.

if it's a 1 for 1 replacement, depending on how we deal with the massive and now useless animal populations, I would totally switch.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

As long at it wasn't even more destructive than normal cultivation (very much tbd), absolutely.

I had no qualms about switching to Beyond Meat either.

If we could figure out how to make a decent ribeye out of peas and seed oils, I'd prefer that to lab-grown too.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't really care about lab grown meat. Haven't eaten meat for years, don't really miss it that much since the plant based alternatives have gotten so good.

Give me lab grown dairy.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

100%

I did hear, though I can't remember where, that someone had successfully gotten yeast to produce the protein in milk that is required for cheese.

I'm too lazy today to search for the article on it..

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sup. No need to keep doing it the old way at that point.

Hell, you could have boneless meat, so it's even better.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the bones are how you make banging soups....

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's OK you can make fake bones too

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Fuck it, I'm in!

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How does it taste?
How much does it cost?
What’s the true environmental impact?

If it’s the same, less and less, sure I’d be all for it.

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[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We don’t eat red meat at all, so I would probably try it out fairly quickly. Actually we don’t eat chicken or the like either, only fish, which is something I miss a bit more now and then. We have a dried product called NoChicken that is actually pretty good, so that’d probably be sufficient for me to wait a bit to see how it goes long term (I.e is it truly safe to consume).

But every now and then, I miss game. Moose and wood grouse mainly. That’d probably hook me enough to try it quickly.

[–] slowroll@r.nf 4 points 1 day ago

still waiting for the mass to consume it and see what happen, also waiting for the price too

[–] Unmapped@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Its the only way I would eat meat again. But don't think it will ever become a normal part of my diet again. The plant-based meat options are just as good and are healthier. They will only get better too.

[–] M1ch431@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I would sooner argue for eating insects vs. lab-grown protein made by a corporation. I have no trust for corporations to produce safe and emergent solutions to the problems we face as a species and world. They have no incentive to do the right thing and put the brakes on when things are looking bad.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always assume any hypothetical beneficial scenario is happening under socialism or another system that discards the profit motive because while we're dreaming might as well dream big.

[–] M1ch431@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Just trying to ground things into our current reality. But yeah, I think in a world where there is an incentive to do good, it's a no-brainer that we could do stuff like this in a lab and in a much more efficient way than agriculture or raising livestock/etc. for protein sources.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And the insects would be provided by whom if not a huge corpos? You create some false equivalence here, it's the ages old struggle of lowering the food costs of feeding workers by making us eat worse things. Potatoes instead of wheat, highly process foods, fats and sugars in everything and ultimate fucking step is looming: eating bugs. You can't go worse than that unless it's a fucking soylent green which i can guarantee you would be somewhere next in the line after you allow the mega rich to feed you bugs.

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[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lots of comments along the lines of "only if it tastes the same" but no one seems to consider the possibility of it tasting better. Like what if lab grown meat is an orgasm for your mouth?

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[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Is it good? Like does it actually taste like steak? Economical to produce? Is it better for the economy and the environment, Hell yes, then.

Imagine a perfectly marbled, perfectly rectangular, gristle free Wagyu quality steak that you could sear in some butter in a cast iron and serve right up.

No animal had to be raised and slaughtered. Less drain on resources. Less land usage.

I'm not convinced that the technology will ever get there, but what do I know. I'm just some dude on the internet.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yes, of course. I'll be among the first in line to try it. Anything to reduce our dependence on livestock is a good idea in my book. It would save me the trouble of having to go vegan. Plus I bet guilt-free meat tastes so much better.

I will let you all try it first. Going to pass on crazy mutation diseases.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. I'll take grown meat over slaughtered. Last i heard they basically just need to make the equipment cheaper to have it be viable. I'm awaiting it.

The day it's on the shelf is the day I'll buy it.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It would be a novelty at best, though I'm not a big meat eater (flexatarian). I'd rather have tempeh or plant based meat

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Kind of depends on if it's good, tbh.

If it's just mediocre, I might try and work it in some meals where I'd use lower quality meat (e.g. sauces, sausage, burgers, etc). Then I'd just get a good real steak from a local ranch a few times a year to scratch that itch.

If the difference is not really perceivable or better, then hell yeah. Easy choice. I might even venture into other meats that I wouldn't eat otherwise like lamb, dog, horse, or even human.

Instantly! I'm already drooling at the door of every meat lab hoping for the day I can get perfect texture meats from any possibly creature to potentially cook with. Imagine the possibilities! Fried dodo, elephant steak, shark kabob, all without the moral, ethical, or biological risks that come with consuming extinct animals, sapient beings, or super predators. The culinary world will never be more shook!

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