I guess if there was any doubt before, it's gone now. Neither party is suitable. Time to really vote progressive. We need a new party that isn't deeply entrenched with whatever made hime sign that.
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Agreed, and what we really need is to actually end the duopoly by changing the voting system to a more fairly representative one like ranked-choice or rated, in the first place. Voting third party will just increase the chance of Republicans winning if that third party is left-leaning, and no third party will get a majority vote if you can't convince the vast majority of Americans to completely change their entire understanding of political parties that they've held on to for the past decades.
Just my opinion here, but the primary thing we should focus on is changing voting systems, because that's what will actually allow us to have a third party be successful in the first place.
Voting systems are extremely hard to change in most states. But progressive candidates usually support voting changes too. So two birds with one stone. It will be a painful few cycles with the Republicans winning. But they have shown they will turn on each other rather fast. And once we show we just aren't going to vote democrat or republican, momentum will build. Things can't get much worse.
How exactly do we focus on changing voting systems? Obviously vote for Democrats who support giving power to the people. What if they don't?
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Out of curiosity if I made you choose between:
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0% of military troops' families getting salaries and healthcare
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100% of military troops' families getting salaries and healthcare with the sole exception of trans care
What would you choose?
Although, honestly, since we're in hypotheticals and foresight, Biden could have let them go without pay and possibly triggered a Bonus Army type scenario where the military protests.
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Well as long as the soldiers get their Christmas bonuses, I suppose a few thousand dead children is an acceptable price to pay. We wouldn't want the soldiers to have their Christmas ruined, and it's not like it would be the Republicans' fault for politicizing a must-pass spending bill. Oh well, it's not like trans kids are really human, a 9/11 worth of child corpses is fine. We wouldn't want to ruin Christmas.
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I'm lost. He spoke against it, but signed it anyway. Did they give any rationalization for signing it?
Paraphrasing here, but "we need to spend money on the military otherwise we won't be safe"
Except that doesn't really hold up since they could have sent it back to be modified and voted on again anyways.
No, not enough time to send it back and the R's knew exactly what they were doing here.
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If only there was some way for him to stop it from happening.... Well, Joe, at least you tried.
It's not like his own opponent did something like that in the past because he didn't like the text of the bill. Surely not...
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/vetoes/TrumpDJ.htm
Stupidity and cowardice. He’s a lame duck; he could’ve gone down swinging and let the next administration take the heat for this. But no, he had to show his true colors.
This will be his legacy. Opening the door wide open to the wolves and supporting the worst genocide since Rwanda. And he deserves it.
I said it before and it bears repeating: he’ll be remembered as a combination of the worst failures of Neville Chamberlain and Paul von Hindenburg.
That’s it. That’s his legacy. Every other aspect of what he did - positive or negative - pales in comparison.
Stupidity and cowardice.
The defining characteristics of the Biden administration and the centrist wing of the Democratic party.
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"Biden cares about trans people unlike Trump!"
Old bigot white dude is an old bigot, news at 11. At least Trump makes it clear he wants my kind to die in a fire for good ratings on Fox News.
Biden isn’t the worst president ever, but he’s a piece of shit. He was entirely not up to the task of our time, and that was obvious in 2020. His presidency had more to do with fulfilling an old man’s lifelong desire to sit in the big seat, rather than meet the needs of the citizenry. It was basically a make-a-wish project for establishment Democrats who desire gentlemanly order and aggrandizement more than any meaningful policy goals. This was a group project, and all of the self-interested facilitators that covered up his senility (going back before the 2020 race), are directly culpable in the emerging feudal reign that Republicans are orchestrating, as well as the unjust murders of hundreds of thousands of innocents in Gaza. I started his administration feeling weary but cautiously hopeful that we may have averted calamity. I end his administration having lost confidence in not only our government, but of our people. I could not have more contempt for the entire American project and all the hollow sentiments that cloak the inhumanity of it. Biden is such a clown.
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Here is the full context of the bill for those interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2025
Here is LGBT Nations' take: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/12/senate-passes-military-bill-with-provision-restricting-trans-healthcare/?
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