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I was wondering about this as it was brought up recently.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 18 points 2 days ago

Halal is more than just how an animal is treated/slaughtered. That's a big part of it, but there's ethics beyond food. And of course there's interpretation so we'll see variations in meaning from different cultures and people.

[–] guy@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago

I thought halal was just bleeding out an animal while the heart still beats, praying for it?
Is there actually different rituals for the equipment as well?

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They have to use separate equipment for all halal foods than non-halal. They have to use special cleaning supplies that are compliant and have no non-Halal ingredients.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You just defined the reason for asking the question without in any way answering it...

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's cleaned with different chemicals

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How are they different? It's halal brand soap and that's the difference?

"How is halal stuff done differently?"

"Oh, you have to do it differently." / “it's cleaned with different chemicals."

.... Neat. You can tell it's different by how it is... I guess.

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These chemicals are different than that of non-halal chemicals

"Diatomaceous Earth (DE): Widely used as a halal-compliant cleaning agent, DE is effective in physically scrubbing and purifying surfaces. It is mixed in specific ratios with water depending on the type of utensils, equipment or area being cleaned. Natural Detergents: Plant-based detergents free from animal derivatives and alcohol are recommended for halal sanitation. These detergents should have verified halal status to ensure compliance. Non-Ethanol-Based Disinfectants: Disinfectants containing isopropyl alcohol or other permissible alcohols can be used, as they are considered mubah (permissible) in sanitation processes as long as they leave no detectable residue in the finished product."

https://halalfoundation.org/halal-sanitation-guidelines-and-checklist/#%3A%7E%3Atext=Diatomaceous+Earth+%28DE%29%3A+Widely%2CDE+to+7+parts+water.

And procedural what OP might have been looking for when something has been contaminated but IDK the full requirements as to whether this part is truly followed since there are Halal restaurants in my part of the US, idk if they do this part:

"2.4 Sertu (Ritual Cleansing) Sertu is a ritual cleansing process used when major najis such as porcine or dog contaminants has come into contact with a product surface or equipment. This process involves washing the contaminated area seven times, with at least one wash including a mixture of water and earth, to purify the area both physically and spiritually."

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Cool thanks!

[–] beaiouns@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

"Ok, so how do I do it?"

"Differently."

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, not for a lot of food production. We had Halal cert at our grain mill and a few other places I've worked at, and we never treated the food differently. Same with Kosher. They just send someone out to extort your business for certificate renewal.

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You're supposed to. If they don't they are lying to their customers. They don't want it to touch the grills that were used for pork etc.

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 28 points 2 days ago

Grain mills don't usually have things touching pork though