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Summary

President Joe Biden commuted the sentences of 37 federal death row inmates to life without parole, sparing all but three convicted of high-profile mass killings.

Biden framed the decision as a moral stance against federal executions, citing his legal background and belief in the dignity of human life.

Donald Trump criticized the move as senseless, vowing to reinstate the death penalty.

Reactions were mixed: some victims’ families condemned Biden, while others supported his decision. Human rights groups praised it as a significant step against capital punishment.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 133 points 2 days ago (14 children)

When you hear the acts of each, you won’t believe that he did this. Makes no sense. Relatives and friends are further devastated. They can’t believe this is happening.

That's because like Trump, those people don't understand justice, they only understand revenge. Trump thinks literally everyone is a horrendous person who wants to wantonly murder others just like him. Control over whether someone lives or dies is the ultimate control, and the one Trump craves most. It's super clear why this is so upsetting to him, he got his favorite type of domination and control taken away. His toys.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago

Remember that Trump said that "Relatives and friends are further devastated. They can’t believe this is happening." Without source, and can be dismissed as something he made up on the spot. The families of the victims are a mixture of reactions some are in support some opposed and some can't be found for comment.

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[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People forgetting Biden is Catholic, and Catholicism is pretty anti-death penalty.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

While I'm overall glad about this, leaving 3 unpardoned inmates really corrupts the "moral stance against federal executions" justification and makes it seem like he is in favor of capital punishment but only for people he thinks deserve it. It also makes it seem like he believes it's his decision to decide who gets to live and that rubs me the wrong way.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Even the most die-hard anti-death-penalty believer has their limits. It may take Hitler-level atrocities to get there, or maybe even worse. But everyone has their own line in the sand where even they will say "If there was ever a case in favor of the death penalty, this is that case." That line is in a completely different place for everybody.

It also makes it seem like he believes it’s his decision to decide who gets to live and that rubs me the wrong way.

Since the President has final pardon power, he actually does get to decide who gets to live. It's a power granted to him by the Constitution.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yep I'm anti-death penalty, the 3 that didn't get pardoned should probably just live the rest of their lives in prison. But I'm not going to shed any tears for them.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I understand that and, if you ask me, those 3 guys are pos. My problem is that he said he did it to take a moral stance against death penalty. You can't do that and go "except for these 3 cases".

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[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is trump cryingon social media about how he doesn't get to kill 37 people on Christmas eve ?

Nice move by sleepy joe i guess

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Good. The more he cries the better

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

In theory, the death penalty makes some sense. It's a right the government reserves for itself (violence) and I think in some contexts it makes sense to be on the table. In practice, it's more expensive than a life sentence, and it's a blunt and racist tool to maintain unjust social and state power.

I wish every governor and president commuted 95% of death penalty situations. It's a major injustice that most executions were carried out, even for those who belief it's something the government should be doing.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Pretty clear donvict knows his qon "pro-life" fanbase is bloodthirsty, and they demand sacrifices.

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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (17 children)

It's odd when you think about it. Republicans don't want abortion but whole heartedly support executions. Democrats are against executions but whole heartedly support abortion. Welcome to America.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Conservatives aren't anti-murder, they are pro-suffering.
They are anti-abortion, because they don't ever get a chance to make the fetus suffer. And golly, the mother barely gets dehumanized at all.
Just think about all the in suffering that fetus skipped by not getting a disease that is easily preventable with a vaccination, and also, it will never know the hell of getting sick from drinking raw milk.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 23 points 2 days ago

It's more odd to me that the ones who believe in original sin and forgiveness for everything are the ones anti-abortion and pro-execution.

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Neither Orwell nor Bradbury nor Vonnegut could have come up with anything so bizarre and upside down as to have a complete criminal and felon pretend that he cares about law and order.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

One of the three he didn't pardon was Dylann Roof. I thought they fried his ass already, had no idea he was still alive.

I did wonder why the three that weren't spared were left to die.. and I still kinda do.

Also I'm kinda surprised Trump didn't pardon Dylann Roof.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It answers this question in the article -- didn't pardon mass murderers

[–] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Did no such thing, simply stated who the three that didn't get commuted were, nothing about why they didn't get it.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wonder what trump is doing with dylan roof?

Execute? But its his kkk compatriot.

Not execute? But then he looks weak for walking back on his bloodthirsty executioner statements.

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[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

View these through the lens of each politician acting in their personal self-interest (which both of them have thoroughly demonstrated to be their only priority). What do they care one way or the other? This is political theater where they're playing with the lives of the people in question.

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