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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 80 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I liked the concept but man those nerds literally couldn't think one step ahead

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The other problem is the ship signal they traced would have been frequency shifted by the same amount as the time dilation. They would have had to compensate for that to even detect the signal.

It was 1 hour : 7 years I think. So about a factor of 60,000. So if a ping was once a second it would be once every 42 days. And if it was a 1MHz transmission it would be at about 17Hz.

So they somehow realized the once a second 1MHz signal was now a every 42 day 17Hz signal at 1/60000 the power. But didn't realize that there was time dilation involved.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago

But didn't realize that there was time dilation involved.

They knew there would be time dilation. They literally discussed it just before they went down there. They just thought they could get it done in a few earth-years rather than decades.

[–] M1nds3nd@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like those funky robots may have done some of the heavy lifting.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That implies some code monkey somewhere decided that feature didn't need a user notification!

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unless they run on a neural net or a genetic algorithm.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Remember when they dialed down the sass? Turns out that setting also affected physics notifications. "physicsassistant" - it was a typo!

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

They did know about the time dilation, though? They weren't surprised by the fact that there was time dilation, they just didn't fully grasp what the results would be.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Couldn't you use that in reverse to create a planet-destroying superlaser?

[–] mcx808@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hmm, this is about an exploit using a theory with much uncertainty about a theory with much uncertainty.

I personally don't think there's something like a singularity. It's just too ugly a workaround.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 65 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

So many movies would only be a few minutes long if the characters were portrayed as being intelligent. Especially horror movies.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Jurassic Park: Hey, zoo's usually put the dangerous animals in huge pitts. Like lions are put in this massive open space that's sunk 200 feet down and surrounded by a wooden wall, with glass panes to look through. Think we should make the T-Rex paddock like that?

Fuck no! We're going to put this 20 foot tall beast inside a tiny paddock that's only secured by electrical wires. Controlled by an IT system of 1 guy. With no backup electric generator. Spared ALL the expenses!

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

Spared ALL the expenses!

I feel like that was the point of the movie, like cutting corners and skimping on the important stuff results in bad things happening. And to think through the implications of scientific development before editing head first into the unknown.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 15 points 3 days ago

Tbf it was on an island, so they were supposed to just get on boats / planes / helicopters / whatever and get away to safety easily.

Thank goodness that storms never occur in the tropics!? :-P

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well the thing about Jurassic Park that is lost in the movie adaptation, is that John Hammond was a megalomaniac who (in my opinion) thought he was a god. He didn’t think anything he did was wrong nor that anything could go wrong for him.

The EndingHe and Ian Malcom get killed by a pack of compsognathus trying to get in the helicopter leaving the park.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Even though the characterisation is different, there's still plenty of clues in the movie showing that when he says he "spared no expense" he's full of shit.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 1 points 3 days ago

Actually he isn’t lying about the expense. Chilean sea bass is on average $30USD per pound.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

I love Cabin in the Woods for that.

"We should stick together." - fart spray - "We should split up."

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 days ago

Turns out only sending mega nerds into a hostile environment might not be the most well thought out system.

The only qualified astronaut is that one SEAL+Doctor+Astronaut+Model.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't physically being on said planet be deadly? It must have an absurdly high gravity if there's so much time dilation

That or the planet must be travelling at significant fractions of lightspeed, which makes landing there a challenge of its own

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago

The planet's gravity is not what is causing the time dilation, but rather the gravity of the supermassive black hole that it was orbiting. The black hole is somehow spinning extremely rapidly, causing frame dragging, which creates a particular stable orbit very close to the event horizon.

Apparently the energy requirements of the orbit would preclude ever reaching the planet except by slingshot manoeuvres around intermediate size black holes or neutron stars.