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We should be using the UAP label for these vehicles over New Jersey, other states and the UK, not the drones label.

UAP - unidentified anomalous phenomena:

Unidentified: no claims to have identified these vehicles have been made by the Pentagon, the Whitehouse, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, local and state authorities, or AARO (who have not been allowed to participate). Whatever is flying around is currently unidentified.

Anomalous: these objects are displaying a range of anomalous behaviours. They have surprisingly long flight times. They cannot be jammed by conventional drone jamming equipment. They evade helicopter pursuit. They ‘go dark’ when authorities ‘get eyes on them’. Civilian drone operator reports that his drone battery was drained in a minute when in proximity. And strangest of all: no one has gotten a good image of one of them, nor followed it to the landing site. This suggests next level signal jamming or stealth. Whatever is flying around is anomalous

Phenomena: they appear to be vehicles. But until we can get an actual photo of one (not just the lights) or capture one, we simply don’t know what they are.

They could end up being drones. But we currently don’t know if they are drones or not. By constantly calling them drones we are jumping to an unwarranted conclusion given the complete lack of identifying data we have.

Personally I have very low expectations that we’ll get this data. This is because what appears to be the same UAPs flew over Langley air force base for a month, and were carefully studied by a NASA research aircraft (WB-57F) for days as they did so, and NASA figured out… absolutely nothing. If NASA’s finest has a perfect situation for study and learns nothing, then don’t expect a miraculous perfect video or image.

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