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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bummer. We needed more people like Grusch to have this be a really big event.

Graves and Fravor are just… “yeah, we saw UAPs.” That is, unless they reveal whistleblower style information.

And remember, “whistleblower” means they reveal criminal activity or otherwise harmful activity. Not just “secrets.” Whistleblowing is not just sharing information you think should be public. Like, “I saw weird stuff in the sky.” Or “I met an alien.” are not whistleblower worthy.

[–] Yubishi@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I understand, though having Graves and Fravor actually testify beings to light, in an official capacity, everything they have been saying in podcasts and blogs. When put under oath, congress has much more incentive, if not prerogative, to go after other pilots that the DoD has shielded from providing any information. This could drive new leads the phenomenon has needed: a program insider (though not directly), and pilots on record.

[–] DaughterOfMars@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I can't wait to see this, but I worry that it will not have much more of an impact than the original Grusch interview.

This is very interesting. Both Graves and Fravor are essentially unimpeachable and it's easy to find other interviews done previously where they come across as very level headed and professional. They do not make the sensational claims that Grusch does so putting them on before him (if that is what happens) builds a picture in the audience's mind of a progression from military observation to government insider.

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