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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 12 hours ago

They really could use some railings over there.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 44 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

This just piles up on the reasons Russia needs to be denuclearisased, putin getting ousted, democracy installed and so on.

Good news Russias economy is in the toilet and someone has started flushing already, Ukrain will prevail and hopefully we'll have peace one day.

[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 47 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

More realistically, he'll probably die of old age or be ousted by someone younger and more exciting to the wealthy elite that keep Putin in power. Real change may come after that, but a change in leadership is not going to immediately fix long term issues like corruption, wealth disparity, etc.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think they will become a Chinese vassal.

I don't know exactly what that'd look like, but the pure economic/political dynamics make it seem kinda inevitable.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

A unified China/Russia alliance sounds like a player in a near future sci-fi, so I'll take that as a good sign

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 10 points 13 hours ago

Unless the Russians violently purge there elites, a new dictator will take the seat before the corpse is cold. He may even hold a sham election to "legitimize" himself as the best person to sand next to a window with.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

True. Another possibility is that the economy (and infrastructure gotten their maintenance money stolen for 20 years and starts to crumble) goes down with a skyrocketing inflation going to the moon killing the ruble, and who knows what happens when you can't pay your army any more ...

Interesting times for russia.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Oh, so China expands to fill that void and hands out a portion to Kim Jong Link before repainting things?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 10 hours ago

Take it with a grain of salt, as I am not an expert, but it looks like China would prefer an 'independent' country that is ruled by Chinese government in secret. That way they don't need to fix and repair all the shit, and can only spend bare minimum of effort needed to keep ~~slaves~~ citizens alive

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I doubt the USA would let them do that freely, but it's an interesting take.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Russia is Game of Thrones in real life. I wouldn't bet on positive change there.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This just piles up on the reasons Russia needs to be denuclearisased, putin getting ousted, democracy installed and so on.

Indeed and same goes for israel or USA. Every nation involved in shady actions should be denucleariased and its politician held account for their crimes.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 39 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"in an apparent suicide, putin critic ________ shot himself in the back 20 times. more at 11"

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

He's gonna do it again at 11? Damn, that's super sus.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 15 points 13 hours ago

Gotta give him time to reload.

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