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Two former Missouri police officers, Julian Alcala and David McKnight, were charged in separate federal cases for illegally searching women’s phones during traffic stops to obtain explicit images.

Alcala, formerly with Florissant police, faces 20 counts of deprivation of rights for allegedly taking nude photos and videos from phones and deleting evidence.

McKnight, an ex-Missouri State Highway Patrol trooper, faces nine similar counts.

At least 29 women’s phones were allegedly searched.

Both men resigned after investigations began. The FBI urges victims to report misconduct by officers. The cases are unconnected.

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[–] Travelator@thelemmy.club 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do cops just routinely grab victim's phones at traffic stops and demand they be unlocked so they can sit in their car and scroll through the photos? How the hell is this legal? Why ?

This really pisses me off.

For the thick brained: "victim" in this context is the person pulled over.

[–] Dlayknee@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From the article:

According to the federal indictment, Alcala would take women's phones during traffic stops to confirm their insurance coverage or vehicle registration. But he searched their phones for nude images and took photos on his own personal phone, the indictment said.

(Doesn't make it ok, but the cops weren't just walking up to the window and demanding to search their phones)

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its things like this that make me glad for Androids app-locking feature.

Lock it on your insurance card. They would need your passcode to leave the insurance app.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For those who are unaware or curious, iOS can do this with your Guided Access settings. You can set it up to be unable to leave the app it’s currently in when you start Guided Access.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 3 points 2 days ago

Thank you! I was trying to Google it as I was sure Apple has something comparable

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do cops just routinely grab victim's phones at traffic stops and demand they be unlocked so they can sit in their car and scroll through the photos? How the hell is this legal? Why ?

No, that's not normal or legal. Which is why these guys are getting charged with deprivation of rights.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

That's an incredible vague charge, I hope they get convincted.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 days ago

Disgusting typical cop shit,

[–] Travelator@thelemmy.club 20 points 3 days ago

Sure, they resigned. Does it end there? They should be jailed for years.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Now I'm just curious about the stats. What percentage of women have nudies on their phones? I would have guessed you would need to search quite a lot of phones to get 29 with nudies on them, but I'm starting to think I'm wrong about that presumption.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'd be willing to bet it's most women in their 20s and 30s. Although to be fair, it said 29 phones were searched, not 29 phones had nudes on them.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Probably every woman above 18 has some nudes of themselves on their phone

[–] Kite@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Are you a woman? Not asking for any accusatory reasons or anything, I'm just curious about why you'd say that - if you're a girl with lots of friends with nude photos, a guy who's received a lot of photos, just a guy assuming, etc. Again, not asking to attack, even if you're just assuming. I don't have any nudes on mine, and I've had talks about this with a few friends and they were all "helllll NO" to the idea as well.

Edit: Though I do have some wicked sexy pictures of my bare legs. They are covered with horrible lumps called erythema nodosum, though, so probably no one would be looking for that lol

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

No I'm not so i can't speak for them in general, but I would say a good number of my closest friends are women, both straight and lesbian, and I've had my fair share of serious girlfriends and flings. In terms of girlfriends and flings I've received quite a few and in terms of my friends I know they've taken them for a variety of reasons, including for their significant others

In my experience it's not that rare for women to have sexy or nude pics on their phone. They like sex and feeling sexy just as much as guys do

Again i only know from my experience and friendships and relationships

Probably not

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Desperate and pathetic. Have these guys never heard of the internet?

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm guessing it's a power thing. They have "trophies" to get off too

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that seems like the best explanation. In that case, I’d like to add “reprehensible” to my other insults.

[–] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also this should go on their permanent record. So they are never allowed to be in any position of authority anywhere again.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That would be nice, but in America, I’m not sure there’s anything like a permanent record for cops.

[–] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

There's a permanent record for everybody that went to school in America. I remember it was drilled into us at a young age, that this or that could end up on our permanent record.

And if there isn't one for cops and other positions of authority there should be one. Make it a phone app.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They probably feel like it's "personalized", like it's "for them", which is an absolutely disgusting and horrifying thought.

[–] Kite@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

The power of it probably does something for them as well.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 4 points 3 days ago

Does this fall under protecting or serving?