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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago) (1 children)

Probably have to escape it so it will work properly: John\/nDoe

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

\n already is an escape sequence, consisting of \, the escape character, and n, the code that is responsible for the new line. Together they form an escape sequence.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 8 points 29 minutes ago

If elected president my first order of business will be to make all birth certificates fully unicode compatible.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Not legal in Canada. Your legal name must use Latin characters only. This is a sore point for indigenous people.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 11 minutes ago

I really can't even begin to properly explain this because it's just so many layers of intuition. No, you absolutely cannot have a line break in your name. That's not a letter. That said, I'm fully prepared for someone to give me an example of some writing system that uses line breaks for unique purposes apart from spaces.

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 61 points 2 hours ago (8 children)

I have an apostrophe and it's super annoying as some companies see it as a SQL injection hack and sanitize it.

So I've received ID with Mc%20dole or they add a space in it. Or I'll get a work email with an apostrophe but I cant use it anywhere because sites have it disabled. And I've missed my flight because I changed my ticket once to add the apostrophe and the system just broke at the gate.

Worse yet many flight companies have "you will not be able to board if your ID doesn't exactly reflect your details" but their form doesn't allow it. Even most forms for card payments don't allow it even though it's the name on my card.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago) (1 children)

you will not be able to board if your ID doesn't exactly reflect your details"

Do they care about an apostrophe though? I can see any punctuation being a problem.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

I had to convince people to let me on board a plane because my name contain a swedish letter (å). Their computer system translated it into "aa", which then didn't match my passport.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

That one I can actually see, having an extra letter that bdoesn't match. Dropped punctuation or symbols (whatever the flair is called) though personally I wouldn't care.

[–] AdNecrias 31 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

%20 is encoded space if I remember right, so even then they were already incorrect

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 minutes ago

It sounds like maybe they sanitized the apostrophe to a space and then encoded it

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (3 children)
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

There's also the version with examples if you want to know exactly what and why it breaks.

And the git that collects all of these in one place, if you want to really nerd out.

[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

This is going to be bobby tables isn't it?

Edit: It wasn't?!

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 18 points 2 hours ago

I want the char 8 that makes a beep.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 41 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

There are a frightening number of systems that don't allow "-", which isn't even an edge case. A lot of people - mostly women - hyphenate their last names on marriage, rather than throw their old name away. My wife did. She legally changed her name when she came of age, and when we met and married years later she said, "I paid for money for my name; I'm not letting it go." (Note: I wasn't pressuring her to take my name.) So she hyphenated it, and has come to regret the decision. She says she should have switched, or not, but the hyphen causes problems everywhere. It's not a legal character in a lot of systems, including some government systems.

[–] Affidavit@lemm.ee 18 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

It boggles my mind how so many websites and platforms incorrectly say my e-mail address is 'invalid' because it has an apostrophe in it.

No. It is NOT invalid. I have been receiving e-mails for years. You just have a shitty developer.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

worst thing is, the regex to check email has been available for decades and it's fine with apostrophies

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 minutes ago (1 children)

Well, and remember: If in doubt, send them an e-mail. You probably want to do that anyways to ensure they have access to that mailbox.

You can try to use a regex as a basic sanity check, so they've not accidentally typed a completely different info into there, but the e-mail standard allows so many wild mail addresses, that your basic sanity check might as well be whether they've typed an @ into there.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 minutes ago

The regexes are written to comply with RFC 5332 and 6854

They are well defined and you can absolutely definitively check whether an address is allowable or not.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5322

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Ugh and that happens a lot if your email domain has an even slightly unusual TLD too.

[–] troybot@midwest.social 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

And you'd think a simple solution is just leave out the hyphen when you put you name in, but that can also lead to problems when the system is looking for a 100% perfect match.

And good luck if they need to scan the barcode on your ID.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Then the first part is interpreted (in the US, anyway) as a middle name, not as part of the last name. I did run into a recently married woman who did that: dropped her middle name, moved her last to the middle, and used her spouse's last name.

More commonly, places that don't take hyphens tend to just run the two names together: Axel-Smith becomes AxelSmith.

Programmers can be really dumb.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 2 points 37 minutes ago

My mom didn't hyphenate, but she does include her maiden name when writing her full name, after her middle name. It never even occurred to me that that's uncommon.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 49 minutes ago

As someone who's mexican I encounter that more than one would think since I have 2 last names and it gets weird sometimes since I also have a middle name.

[–] r4venw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

I have come across a shockingly large amount of people who not only have a hyphenated last name but also have a hypenated first name! Dealing with every new computer system is like a new adventure

[–] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Unix or dos format?

Anyway, you probably need to put a backslash before it to indicate line continuation.

But wouldn't it be better to use something more traditional, such as ?

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 20 minutes ago

HTML is more traditional than \n?

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What about an open bracket? (

[–] fsr1967@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] whynot@lemmy.world 3 points 40 minutes ago

( it will be fine with enough upvotes

[–] linux2647@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 27 minutes ago

Downvoting in order to bring it below @whynot's comment.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 85 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

asking questions like this is how i found out that one of the allowed characters in names in my country is ÿ, which is fine in Latin-1 but in 7-bit ASCII is DEL.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This sounds like it would create a whole list of fun and irritating edge conditions for some poor bugger to debug. Love it.

[–] UnrepentantAlgebra@lemmy.world 3 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

If someone else has to debug the problems caused by a parent naming their child with a special character, does that make the parent the bugger? 🤔

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

I can tell you that buggering is not how you become a parent.

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