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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I am so tired of the ai hype and hate. Please give me my gen art interest back please just make it obscure again to program art I beg of you

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's still quite obscure to actually mess with AI art instead of just throwing prompts at it, resulting in slop of varying quality levels. And I don't mean controlnet, but github repos with comfyui plugins with little explanation but a link to a paper, or "this is absolutely mathematically unsound but fun to mess with". Messing with stuff other than conditioning or mere model selection.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago

Good. I look forward to all these idiots finally accepting that they drastically misunderstood what LLMs actually are and are not. I know their idiotic brains are only able to understand simple concepts like "line must go up" and follow them like religious tenants though so I'm sure they'll waste everyone's time and increase enshitification with some other new bullshit once they quietly remove their broken (and unprofitable) AI from stuff.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Theres no bracing for this, OpenAI CEO said the same thing like a year ago and people are still shovelling money at this dumpster fire today.

[–] j4p@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago

Sigh I hope LLMs get dropped from the AI bandwagon because I do think they have some really cool use cases and love just running my little local models. Cut government spending like a madman, write the next great American novel, or eliminate actual jobs are not those use cases.

[–] art@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

It's had all the signs of a bubble for the last few years.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

so long, see you all in the next hype. Any guesses?

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[–] Decker108@lemmy.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

Nice, looking forward to it! So much money and time wasted on pipe dreams and hype. We need to get back to some actually useful innovation.

[–] Someplaceunknown@fedia.io 210 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"LLMs such as they are, will become a commodity; price wars will keep revenue low. Given the cost of chips, profits will be elusive," Marcus predicts. "When everyone realizes this, the financial bubble may burst quickly."

Please let this happen

[–] orl0pl@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago

Market crash and third world war. What a time to be alive!

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Until Open AI announces a new 5t model or something and then the hype refreshes

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 185 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wish just once we could have some kind of tech innovation without a bunch of douchebag techbros thinking it's going to solve all the world's problems with no side effects while they get super rich off it.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago

Of course most don't actually even believe it, that's just the pitch to get that VC juice. It's basically fraud all the way down.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Soooo... Without capitalism?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Pretty much.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (7 children)

... bunch of douchebag techbros thinking it's going to solve all the world's problems with no side effects...

one doesn't imagine any of them even remotely thinks a technological panacaea is feasible.

... while they get super rich off it.

because they're only focusing on this.

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[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 48 points 1 day ago
[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 day ago (4 children)

largely based on the notion that LLMs will, with continued scaling, become artificial general intelligence

Who said that LLMs were going to become AGI? LLMs as part of an AGI system makes sense but not LLMs alone becoming AGI. Only articles and blog posts from people who didn't understand the technology were making those claims. Which helped feed the hype.

I 100% agree that we're going to see an AI market correction. It's going to take a lot of hard human work to achieve the real value of LLMs. The hype is distracting from the real valuable and interesting work.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I read a lot I guess, and I didn’t understand why they think like this. From what I see, are constant improvements in MANY areas! Language models are getting faster and more efficient. Code is getting better across the board as people use it to improve their own, contributing to the whole of code improvements and project participation and development. I feel like we really are at the beginning of a lot of better things and it’s iterative as it progresses. I feel hopeful

[–] mutant_zz@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

OpenAI published a paper about GPT titled "Sparks of AGI".

I don't think they really believe it but it's good to bring in VC money

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That is a very VC baiting title. But it's doesn't appear from the abstract that they're claiming that LLMs will develop to the complexity of AGI.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 26 points 22 hours ago

Journalists have no clue what AI even is. Nearly every article about AI is written by somebody who couldn't tell you the difference between an LLM and an AGI, and should be dismissed as spam.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The call is coming from inside. Google CEO claims it will be like alien intelligence so we should just trust it to make political decisions for us bro: https://www.computing.co.uk/news/2024/ai/former-google-ceo-eric-schmidt-urges-ai-acceleration-dismisses-climate

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[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

AI was 99% a fad. Besides OpenAI and Nvidia, none of the other corporations bullshitting about AI have made anything remotely useful using it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

I would say LLMs specifically are in that ball park. Things like machine vision have been boringly productive and relatively un hyped.

There's certainly some utility to LLMs, but it's hard to see through all the crazy over estimations and being shoved everywhere by grifters.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Nvidia made money, but I've not seen OpenAI do anything useful, and they are not even profitable.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

ChatGPT is basically the best LLM of its kind. As for Nvidia I'm not talking about hardware I'm talking about all of the models it's trained to do everything from DLSS and ACE to creating virtual characters that can converse and respond naturally to a human being.

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[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Well duhhhh.
Language models are insufficient.
They also need:

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (11 children)

No shit. This was obvious from day one. This was never AGI, and was never going to be AGI.

Institutional investors saw an opportunity to make a shit ton of money and pumped it up as if it was world changing. They'll dump it like they always do, it will crash, and they'll make billions in the process with absolutely no negative repercussions.

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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 20 hours ago

Of course it'll crash. Saying it's imminent though suggests someone needs to exercise their shorts.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Crash? Doesn't it have to be moving at all to crash?

[–] d7sdx@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

Nvidia shares ..

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

"The economics are likely to be grim," Marcus wrote on his Substack. "Sky high valuation of companies like OpenAI and Microsoft are largely based on the notion that LLMs will, with continued scaling, become artificial general intelligence."

"As I have always warned," he added, "that's just a fantasy."

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