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[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah, the "if we don't do it someone else will"-defense. A classic.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago
[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"But what if we try to stop destroying the planet and someone else keeps making more profits by continuing to do so?! How is that fair on our shareholders?

How are we supposed to keep increasing our revenue under those conditions? I don't think you are thinking about what's really important here"

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

I hate that this is basically accurate and I also hate that "but Tommy over there isn't yet forced to do his homework so I'm not doing mine" is a legally winning argument.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, at this point I'm just rooting for nature to take its course, which it will.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] SARGE@startrek.website 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If the options are "I die, my pets die, my entire family dies, a slow painful climate and pollution-driven death"

Vs

"these 20 companies get permanently shut down, their resources reallocated, their infrastructure dismantled and repurposed, their employees find new jobs potentially repurposong said industry, and executives get locked in solitary for the rest of their lives"

I know which I'd pick.

And if it's legal to use lethal force when defending one's life and one's family, then it's legal to use lethal force to defend one's life and family

Companies can die without a single real human being hurt.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What makes it complicated is that point 2 will also lead to suffering because society relies on the energy they produce to function

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Bending is painful, breaking is worse.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Society should buy some solar panels.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gotta manufacture the solar panels first, which takes energy and work

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

Naa we did that already, they exist, buy them.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Updating resume now.

Digital Pirate Eco Terrorist

Literally me. 😂

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

So ordered.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

you and me both

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I think the answers are not things anyone should post online.

[–] 01011@monero.town 14 points 3 days ago

The first amendment allows for free speech the second amendment affords the citizenry the right to bear arms to protect against tyranny. The corpocracy is tyranny...

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

If anyone talks about buying carbon credits, just punch them in the face.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Hey it was nice knowing y'all.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fucking oil companies are literally going to willfully kill us all in the name of profit if Trump doesn't beat them to it.

[–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They'll scorch the Earth as long as they continue making money as it burns

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago

...and they'll tell us how green they are as they do it.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Theres no saving this planet is there?

[–] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh the planet will survive. It's us and everything we love that won't.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Don't be too modest, we will take countless species with us. Some are already relegated to museams due to nothing but human interference. Yes the giant rock will persist but we will disturb enough life to seriously jeopardize the future of many if not most forms of life.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe our bones will create a new layer in the Earth that'll be covered over and the earths ecosystem will degenerate and eventually recreate itself billions of years later, leaving a future race of newly evolved, curious species to crawl out of the ensuing muck to find in us a great energy source trapped underground and drill it to the surface for use.

🎶 The circle of life!!! 🎶

Unironically probably something like that. Nature will take what we give it and keep going best it can, the ashes of the old world will fertilize the new one, and it wouldn't be the first time nature on this planet has done something like that.

There's no saving our species, but evidently there's no reason to. I just hope we go before we can take much more down with us.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago