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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Nanny State. Been saying it.

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Not everyday I'm on the fuck you got mine side of the argument

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To the "can't enforce this because it can be circumvented" argument - this is missing the point of most laws. The intention is to apply to the majority, not to be foolproof. Getting most to stop a harmful behavior already gets us most of the benefits. We can never stop everyone.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok, and how will it be enforced at all?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Hopefully it'll just be a "Are you over 16?" box.

Digital ID sounds fucking disastrous.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

And that is the thinly veiled real goal here. If you need a proper age verification process on most platforms, you need an identification process on most platforms. And that conveniently allows to associate everything you do on every platform to you personally. So if the government doesn't like what you do, they can oppress you more easily.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It'll be more than a question. But again, how will Australia enforce that? Even if Australia provided a free API for age checks, it would still be a hassle to implement it. Are eg Fediverse devs going to do that?

Australian law enforcement can seize servers that are physically in Australia. It can also cut off cash flow for any business with paying customers in Australia. And all the rest? Even aside from free VPNs, there is a lot of internet that they can't touch.

They can lean on the likes of Youtube or Facebook to steer people in a more government approved direction. But as soon as people become annoyed or bored, they just go elsewhere beyond government control. If ID requirements are onerous for ordinary people, they will avoid compliant sites from the start.

The government could make Australian ISPs use a blacklist or a whitelist. Serious enforcement is possible, but not without going full totalitarian.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The US in 6 months: "fuckin watch me."

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

According to the 3 criteria mentioned in the article, YouTube wouldn't need to be banned, logging in to YouTube would be banned. YouTube is still functional (mostly) when logged out, and wouldn't violate those 3 criteria. The other services mentioned, like gaming, would be banned.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

watch this space, australia is the testing ground for new services overseas. If this rolls out effectively in Australia, you can expect it in your own country soon.

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