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    [–] justtobbi@feddit.de 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well akshually, a polar bear and pinguin could never meet due to the fact that they life at opposite places πŸ€“πŸ€“

    [–] iesou@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Thanks for being that guy so I didn't have to.

    [–] ThatGuy@lemmus.org 7 points 1 year ago

    You’re welcome, but I did nothing

    [–] laivindil@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago
    [–] Xeelee@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I didn't think these people were real until I had to explain to one very carefully that I do not have time nor the want to fuck with Arch and Ubuntu works for me when I was asking a simple display IT question on Reddit.

    [–] BoiLudens@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Personally use PopOS, I got a need to game, if I really wanna tinker it’s always there if I want to. But I need an entertainment OS for my living room not a pet project.

    [–] MirranCrusader@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    PopOS gaming was a shit show for me, steam wouldn’t work and installing non free drivers borked my system like it was Ubuntu 12.04. I honestly don’t have any idea what PopOS does that others don’t for gaming, steam/wine/lutris/bottles are distribution agnostic. I’ve only ever heard people say PopOS for gaming but never seen anything showing why it’s better.

    Full disclosure this was a while ago and I’ve gone separate ways with Debian and derivatives for now.

    [–] puppy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What are you using now?

    What PopOS' did different was not any of the software you mentioned. It was proprietary NVIDIA drivers. They shipped them with the ISO and put it front and center.

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    [–] Crozekiel@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

    That sucks man. There needs to be less division and derision in the Linux community. Not that there is a lot, but there is enough to drive some people away. It's not as easy as windows to daily drive Linux. It is SO MUCH better than it used to be, but it still isn't something you can just dump on a family member or friend and expect to not get calls about it.

    And worse, it isn't the same for almost anyone. I've had good luck with Arch derivatives (Manjaro and Garuda), but I've got friends that tried running the exact same OS and build etc. on very similar hardware and can't get half the games working that I play regularly with minimal effort - even following the same steps I used with no issues. They install Ubuntu or Mint and suddenly it works fine... Happy it works, but none of us know why or what to do if something similar happens next time...

    And somehow, it seems every problem any of us runs into are so bizarre (or we don't know enough "likely causes" to google specific and correct terminology) that it seems like no one on the internet has ever had it happen before. Thankfully it's been going great for me, but one of my friends is just having a rough time of it. :(

    TL;DR - Thank you to all the actually helpful people in the Linux community that make this journey possible for the rest of us. To the people being dicks: if you have to swing down constantly to feel good, re-evaluate your life choices and leave us out of it.

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Nah. Ubuntu is what you use after you've gone through your edgy youth distro-as-status-symbol phase and don't give a fuck anymore.

    I haven't distro-hopped or even reinstalled my OS in half a decade or more.

    [–] LonelyWendigo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Exactly. I mean I installed it once upon a time on my server because it was well supported and most hardware I had just worked. I cut my teeth on Linux by using Ubuntu, so I'm familiar with where I'm going to have trouble and how to troubleshoot it if I do. I can tear down and setup a new Ubuntu server over a weekend if I wanted to and transfer all my stuff, but not if I had to switch distros. I could do it, but I'd rather not spend the extra time. Maybe I'm lazy, but I'm no noob. At this point for me, hopping distros is just a matter of the devil you know vs. the devil you don't. I've got more important things to DO with my machine and life than spend it fucking with and constantly breaking/fixing my setup. So, from what I've heard about it, Arch is everything that is holding back Linux on the desktop and everything I don't want in an OS unless I'm getting paid by the hour.

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

    The first Linux distro I ever tried was a copy of Turbolinux 6 I got from a Hamfest (I wasn't successful in installing it), I used Gentoo in college [embarrassingly large number redacted] years ago (along with Debian and OS X on other computers), and I tend to prefer Debian most of the time.

    I didn't try Ubuntu until I'd already been using Linux for more than a decade, and the only reason it ended up on my main machine is simply that Debian didn't 100% "just work" on my hardware and I couldn't be bothered even trying to troubleshoot it, so I picked the next closest thing.

    [–] WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Those kinds of people suck, the whole point of owning a thing is to enjoy it, if it makes you happy who gives a damn that us arch users will think less of you.

    [–] croobat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    As an arch user btw you got me in the first half ngl

    [–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I like my Linux to work out of the box.

    Yes ik I'm spoiled now

    [–] kryllic@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I suppose you want your audio drivers to work the first time too? The nerve of some people smh

    [–] platysalty@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

    Kids nowadays. Back in my day we had to fiddle with the code blind while we figured out the display drivers

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    [–] herr_hauptmann@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Clearly you have never built Linux from source or installed slackware in floppy disks. Nooooooobs

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    [–] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Doesn't Ubuntu have a metric shit ton of legitimate problems these days? I thought people had mostly moved away from it as the go to distro

    [–] cynetri@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

    Yeah as far as I can tell, the current big user-friendly distros are either PopOS or Linux Mint because Ubuntu is doing the whole snap thing, and also Mint (maybe Pop too, i havent looked into that one much) is Ubuntu-based just without snap

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Nope. You're just hearing the loud noises in some echo chambers. Us Ubuntu users don't have much to say because shit just works over here.

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    [–] rodneyck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Arch user, btw. Isn't Ubuntu going to an all-Snaps version? If so, shouldn't the polar bear be extra bloated?

    [–] assa123@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

    It's not bloat, it's for the extreme cold

    [–] xeekei@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Why is the penguin passing a dildo over to the bear in the first pic?

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    [–] tswerts@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm an Ubuntu-user. My wife and myself have a Windows laptop from work and my kids also from school. Not to have to buy another laptop for personal use I made an Ubuntu-usb-stick to boot from any of these four available laptops. I'm not a power user. I need some office-apps, web-browser, ... . And gaming is done via Gforce-Now cloud gaming. If that makes me a noob πŸ™‚ I mostly don't have the time anymore to tinker with all this anymore. Been there, done that.

    [–] blackfire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

    You're doing just fine. Use. The tools you want when you want.

    [–] AnanasMarko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    That's nice. Be sure to set appropriate flags to mount the USB (e.g. in fstab file) to prolong it's life span. The thumb drive could deteriorate rather quickly otherwise.

    See: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Install_Arch_Linux_on_a_removable_medium#Minimizing_disk_access

    Edit: typo

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    [–] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Tried arch today. Didn't even get to installing it on the partition. Pacman just won't sync extra repo. No chance of letting reflector do it's thing. Nobody seemed to have the exact same problem before. Mostly found half- or unanswered threads from before 1876. Gave up after an hour and installed Ubuntu with about 2.5 clicks.

    Fuck that penguin. I hope it was delicious.

    Skill issue /s.

    [–] janWilejan@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I'd appreciate a content warning or marking your post as nsfw when you post gore. I did not want to see that last panel.

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    [–] discomatic@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm just learning Linux so I literally Googled the easiest version and installed Ubuntu. I can't even figure out folder permissions. I'm in over my head, but at least I'm also getting made fun of.

    [–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

    Ubuntu is where most of us start, so fortunately there is a lot of help! Don't worry, you'll get the hang of it in time. It's not hard, it's just complicated because it's introducing a lot of new things. I put Linux on a whim on my laptop and after two years I have started to convert everything over. I learned to appreciate an OS that does what I tell it and not assume what I want to do.

    [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

    You will learn, it just takes time, even those fanboys didn't know anything about chmod when they started, and some of them install Arch and end up running back to windows because they started on hard mode.

    Just use the distro that fits your needs.

    [–] platysalty@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Dude, I've been messing with this stuff for a decade and permissions still get me sometimes. If something is breaking, always do a check on permissions. It's often the issue.

    Just 777 it, then it always works

    [–] JoelJ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I can't remember the details now, but I tried running Ubuntu on my desktop first but I had trouble with some software not running. Then I tried Arch, and it just worked πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

    5 years now and it's still running fine. Any problems I have are fixed with a quick google, and maybe a copy and a paste lol

    [–] denast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    From what I understand, it usually boils down to user having some modern hardware which has drivers only in recent kernel versions. Since Ubuntu lags behind in Kernel versions, it can be that appropriate drivers for your hardware are simply not there.

    For instance Asus-linux community dedicated to using Linux on modern (usually gaming) Asus laptops has a huge Ubuntu warning and recommends Fedora or Arch based distros.

    [–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I GET IT NOW

    Climate change is all a plot by Arch Users to kill Ubuntu users

    [–] platysalty@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

    I might consider switching to Arch then. Getting pretty toasty outside

    [–] tsuica@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

    I wonder how many production servers use Arch and how many use Ubuntu.

    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

    Are we still doing the old memes thing? Because that's the only reason I know of to use Ubuntu as the "normal" distro anymore. Nowadays they seem to resent still having a desktop distro. They really only care about server and IoT.

    [–] Graphine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

    I use Arch btw

    [–] minh2134@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Im just here waiting for the inevitable reverse of this reverse meme. Real question, and maybe its just this extreme luck of mine: have anyone of you guys actually see a significant body of smugly Arch users put it in your face, because I havent seen one but i've seen this meme idea for the nth times now. Hiw is this any different from "I use Ubuntu btw"?

    [–] UlrikHD@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I've never seen anyone being smug about their distro, but I've also never seen a comment where somebody have said they use Ubuntu. Arch on the other hand is everywhere, meme or no meme.

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    [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    I use arch endevour cause I AM noob, I cannot use a Debian like distros for 3 months without breaking it

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