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I'm all for inclusion of all people in our society. No one should be prejudiced for who they are.

BUT! Today I have to draw the line! Listening to the Play School alphabet song with my kid and it goes "A, B, C, D....X, Y, zed or zee". Since when is this blatant destruction of our national identity accepted?

I'll be picketing outside the ABC's head office from tomorrow and following that the education office until this travesty can be corrected! Who's with me?!

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[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Idk which it's meant to be and I'm too afraid to ask

I feel like no matter how I say it some cunt always tells me I'm saying it wrong

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead.

/s

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Well, Trump did get elected. Do you're probably correct.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No /s, it is, no one says Gen Zed, or Jay Zed, XY Zee is just next in line, it's all Zee's and it makes sense why

At this point nobody is learning 'English', people are learning American because they watch American Movies, TV Shows, listen to American Music, eat American Food, play American Video Games, we watch literally millions of American Youtube and Tiktok Videos every day, we're following American Influencers and Celebrities, with American Social Media Australians are following American Politics more closely than Australian Politics and frequently confusing the two, in addition we're all addicted to the American Apps installed on American Operating Systems (all of them, Windows and MacOS and Android and IOS) on the American Smart Phones/Laptops/Desktops

The top most visited websites in Australia:

https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/australia/

  1. American
  2. American
  3. American
  4. American
  5. American

The consequence of this is that we lose our culture, but as some French statesman said: why bother when everyone is enjoying everything?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well tbf what you're losing is the UK's culture. Finding a balance of other stuff that works for you instead of clinging to tradition is how you build a culture of your own.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

no one says Gen Zed

Odd choice of example, I hear it often.

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah my daughter referred to herself as a zedder yesterday. I hear it often enough

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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a NZr, I couldnt care less. English is a juggernaut truck - it goes on regardless.

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

That's enough internet for me for today. Sick fuck. At least put a NSFL warning next time.

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s fine. Outside of visiting the United States I never hear anyone say zee. Even the American guys at work say zed.

We explained to our 4 year old, when she was 2, why she might hear zee on tv. She gets it and goes “it’s zed!” when she hears those shows. This is a nothing problem.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Exactly what we did. Demonised the filth, before the infection could spread.

[–] MuffinHeeler@aussie.zone 14 points 4 days ago

The Wiggles alphabet song says this too. Although that I get since they export to the states now. It might even introduce American kids to the Zed.

Playschool is unforgivable. That's our national kids show and should be Australian.

[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 14 points 4 days ago

A picket on the sidewalk is a great idea.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Zee, candy, cookies. All that American language creeping in shits me.

And yet we also see "football" being used more and more often to refer to soccer. The one time Australian culture and American culture should be in sync, some of us decided to copy the bloody poms.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I'm not sure if I understand which version you'd prefer- Do you want football to refer to the game where players use their hands to move an egg shaped object, or do you think football should refer to the game where players use their feet to move a ball shaped object?

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We’re not America.

Here we say football to refer to the game where players use their feet to move an egg shaped object.

Look out, you'll upset the rugby fans.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago

As long as they don't call it footy its fine. Football is a broad term for a lot of codes.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

⚽ 🇺🇸 SOCCER 🇦🇺 ⚽

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago

A noble cause

[–] lulztard@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Rappers on a tight schedule?

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago

Gotta make happy hour

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wait until you hear what they did to the U.S. alphabet.

LMNOP is gone. They fucking killed it.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Basically the song got changed in elementary school from,

"ABCDEFG HIJKLMNOP QRS TUV WX Y and Z(ee)"

to

"ABCEFG HIJK L M N OPQ RSTUV WXY and Z"

Basically they slowed it down

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So does it no longer go to the tune of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star?

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It "does", which makes it even worse.

Sorry for the mobile YT link, starts at 25 seconds

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVuk71UdIf8&amp%3Bt=27s&amp%3Bpp=2AEbkAIB

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Wow, that was...something. Completely dumps the rhyming "ee". If kids are having trouble with understanding elemeno, a better solution (IMO anyway, as someone who is not in any way an early learning educator) would be to just be more staccato with annunciating the l. m. n. o. peee.

[–] Oneser@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We can have a little pogrom against usaians as a treat.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

usaians

Cringe.

Just say Americans mate, we all know you’re not referring to the inhabitants of North America or South America, you’re not correcting any confusion only adding it by not using the countries name.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Mexicans are americans.

Colombians are americans.

Brazilians are americans.

Unitedstates-ians are americans.

It’s funny because spanish doesn’t have this problem. They call the people from the US estadounidenses which basically is unitedstates-ian.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 4 days ago

Mexicans are North Americans

Colombians are South Americans.

Brazilians are South Americans.

Americans are North America but from the country called the United States of America, hence why they get called Americans and Mexicans from Mexico are called Mexicans

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Mexicans are americans.

No they aren't.

Colombians are americans.

No they aren't

Brazilians are americans.

No they aren't.

In every country in the anglosphere, the word "America" is synonymous with "United States of America". If you want to speak Spanish and talk about America as a single continent as I know is common in Latin American countries, go ahead. But that is not the way the English language is ever used by native speakers.

It also frankly doesn't make sense. It's based in the popular idea in Latin American countries that there are 6 continents, including one called "America". I know the definition of "continent" is fuzzy and categorising them is ambiguous, but I maintain that the only sensible 6 continent model is one which merges Eurasia, relative to the 7 continent model. If you want to talk about the Americas as a single continent, the only way to do that without blatantly coming across as ridiculous is to have a 4 continent model containing Afro-Eurasia and America.

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[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

by not using the countries name

"America" is not their country's name either ("USA" is actually closer, now that you mention it)

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago

America is the country's short/familiar name. Like how the Commonwealth of Australia is just called Australia, the United Mexican States is called Mexico, and the Republic of China is called Taiwan.

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[–] Drusenija@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago

I always knew it as zee growing up. It worked in the rhyme.

"W, X, Y and Zee, now I know my A B Cs, next time won't you sing with me" (that last line is probably a separate argument on its own 😂).

Then Dragon Ball Z hit Australian TV and it was done after that.

[–] incogtino@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

I cringe if I hear someone use a hard Z

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] CEOofmyhouse56@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago

You're wrong Play School!

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We coulda nipped this in the bud if we had joined together and formed AmerAustralia, a unified country. I tried to promote it. We’d each have each other’s backs when the other was sleeping. But noooo. And now Zed is dead. smh. I’m so sad for all that could have been.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Austra-Zealand Union is what we should be looking at. Sure, the accent will take a hit, but we will be unstoppable in sports.

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

You’d both be on the same side of the world. Who would keep an eye on things while you sleep?

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